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one link suspension??

nad said:
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No opinion on the setup, but have you ever been to Brick's Farm? I've heard about it, and I'm about 20 miles south of St. Louis, so it would be a bit of a drive from me, but I was just wondering if it was worth it.
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Never been. Another guy turned me onto it. I've always heard about it just never made it. Yeah it'd be a pretty good drive for you. It's still an hour and 45 minutes from here
 
Always thought about trying to get some of my buddies together to make a weekend trip down there. There's really not many places to go wheeling around here. We just go to the local mud runs twice a year, that's about it.
 
nad said:
Always thought about trying to get some of my buddies together to make a weekend trip down there. There's really not many places to go wheeling around here. We just go to the local mud runs twice a year, that's about it.
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Same with Bloomsdale. Suck they dont have more. Missouri just sucks in general :haha:
 
Oh you went to the Bloomsdale ones? Since when did they stop? I went to the last one, I didn't know they didn't have them anymore though. We always go to the ones at OO DD, Jeremy Naeger's Custom Differentials. Can't really do much out there unless you're running tractor tires and 30 inches of lift. If you go out there much, we'll have to meet up sometime.
 
nad said:
Oh you went to the Bloomsdale ones? Since when did they stop? I went to the last one, I didn't know they didn't have them anymore though. We always go to the ones at OO DD, Jeremy Naeger's Custom Differentials. Can't really do much out there unless you're running tractor tires and 30 inches of lift. If you go out there much, we'll have to meet up sometime.
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The events at C-D are pretty nasty, like you said, have to basically be a mud machine to get around. I've never had a truck there, but I've spectated once.
(note: I'm originally from Perryville, MO... right off I-55 at exit 129)
 
So back to the topic at hand. One-link rear suspensions have beend discused here before. Check out the center of gravity forum. Also this is commonly called a "grader-ball" suspension because some people use a ball and socket found on road graders. I think its a good choice if you use a really beefy link. Cause if you break that link, your axle is gonna fall out! Robert97dodge has put one of these under the rear of his truck, search for his build thread.

When I finally give in and decide to link the rear of my truck, I may do a 1-link because of simplicity and driveshaft protection as well. Here's a pic of the ball/socket that I would probably use:
 
Didn't follow the link, but there's a guy over on texas4x4 running a one link front and rear on a full size blazer on rockwells and 44s...COG is a bit high, but thing flexs really well. One could even use the new Evolution heims that are freakin' huge.
 
muddermilitia said:
So back to the topic at hand. One-link rear suspensions have beend discused here before. Check out the center of gravity forum. Also this is commonly called a "grader-ball" suspension because some people use a ball and socket found on road graders. I think its a good choice if you use a really beefy link. Cause if you break that link, your axle is gonna fall out! Robert97dodge has put one of these under the rear of his truck, search for his build thread.

When I finally give in and decide to link the rear of my truck, I may do a 1-link because of simplicity and driveshaft protection as well. Here's a pic of the ball/socket that I would probably use:
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I like that :D

Greg72 said:
It's excellent when combined with a "stacked frames" setup.

:saweet:
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Ahh come on it can't be THAT bad :D
 
nad said:
Oh you went to the Bloomsdale ones? Since when did they stop? I went to the last one, I didn't know they didn't have them anymore though. We always go to the ones at OO DD, Jeremy Naeger's Custom Differentials. Can't really do much out there unless you're running tractor tires and 30 inches of lift. If you go out there much, we'll have to meet up sometime.
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They haven't stopped doing them. They just only do it twice ,maybe 3 times a year now instead of five like before.

I go there often so i might see ya down there. We''ll have to get together ;)
 
Yes I am doing one on my '86 K20 with 2.5 ton rocks. If you do a search under my name you should be able to find my build thread and lots of pics. I used a 2 5/16s trailer ball and used a bulldog hitch with it so I have under $200 in my rear link bars and trailer hitch and ball.
 
RGV72BLAZER said:
Didn't follow the link, but there's a guy over on texas4x4 running a one link front and rear on a full size blazer on rockwells and 44s...COG is a bit high, but thing flexs really well. One could even use the new Evolution heims that are freakin' huge.
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Flex isn't everything by any stretch.


Ask anyone anyone you know who has a one link what their anti-squat is or what their roll axis angle is. They will likely have no idea what you are talking about.

A one link can be done correctly, but a triangulated 4 link will always perform better.

Beside the fact that its not really a "1 link" and needs a second link (track bar) to locate the axle laterally.


I really don't understand why anyone would be drawn to a one-link (or two link ;)) suspension, but I'm always open to discussion :deal:
 
Bricks is a fun place to wheel, they have a small area to test out rock buggies (not much rock but alot of berms and ag tires), trails and hill climb areas ( some not for the faint of heart), and the mud.

There are also 4 wheeler drag races.

Check out the video and you will see my old wheeler (1945 chevy truck on 40s)
 
38377k5 said:
Flex isn't everything by any stretch.


Ask anyone anyone you know who has a one link what their anti-squat is or what their roll axis angle is. They will likely have no idea what you are talking about.

A one link can be done correctly, but a triangulated 4 link will always perform better.

Beside the fact that its not really a "1 link" and needs a second link (track bar) to locate the axle laterally.


I really don't understand why anyone would be drawn to a one-link (or two link ;)) suspension, but I'm always open to discussion :deal:
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I never said flex is everything. A million other factors will always come into play. But I do believe a balanced amount of articulation is key to finesse. A primary reason I can see a one link having an advantage is price VS a four link. Price DOM, links, bungs, etc. & you can see why someone would want to do it.
 
38377k5 said:
Flex isn't everything by any stretch.


Ask anyone anyone you know who has a one link what their anti-squat is or what their roll axis angle is. They will likely have no idea what you are talking about.

A one link can be done correctly, but a triangulated 4 link will always perform better.

Beside the fact that its not really a "1 link" and needs a second link (track bar) to locate the axle laterally.


I really don't understand why anyone would be drawn to a one-link (or two link ;)) suspension, but I'm always open to discussion :deal:
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Can you engineer a one link to have the right anti squat or roll axis angle? Or are that just not enough adjustment points to accomplish that?
 
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