okay, okay. I know this has been done to death, but every thread I could find degenerated into arguing about K&N and ram air without discussing the merits of either system. The arguement for each is this: Snorkel accesses cool air from outside which is denser. Open element accesses more air but it is hotter. The arguements bounce back and forth and I can't make sense of either. It seems that there isn't really any empirical data supporting either. Anyone?