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Overheating on highway only. Whats the problem?

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So i finally took took the burb on the highway for the first time since the 5.3 swap. It never overheats in town but on the freeway it gets to about 220-230. Soon as im off the freeway it cools back down to 195 real fast. Any ideas? First things first i need to check the coolant level but cant yet as i just got back and the burb is still hot.
 
thats odd usually its the opposite but id replace the thermostate and if that dont help might need a water pump
 
Seems like a flow issue I would check the rad too if it wasn't new with swap.
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Every time I've had cooling issues at higher speeds, it's always the radiator that has a flow problem.
 
Interesting. It's only got about 10k miles on it and never had a problem with the 350 but maybe I should have it flushed. The thermostat is new but that doesn't mean much. Going to go check the water in a few.
 
Along the lines are the other guys. Normally its a capacity issue. Like blockage, or not big enough.

But that cant be ruled out unless its shrouded. I had a 400 over heat with out a shroud going down the highway. The fan needs to utilize man much as the Radiator as possible
 
Yep at speed its a flow problem, can be airflow or coolant flow, but one or both of them is lacking. Do you have proper shrouding?
 
Also since it's a 5.3. Where did you take the steam ports from the top of the heads? You understand that the "LS" stuff flows "backwards" from what we are used to with the older 350 style systems? What size is your radiator? It is generally accepted that the "LS" line cools better than the older stuff so if the radiator was good for a 350 it should be more than good for a 5.3.

plus all of the above. This seems like a flow issue like has been mentioned several time.
 
It might need a spring inside the lower radiator hose--I've had a few older vehicles that overheated only at higher speeds and one day I noticed when I opened the hood,that the lower hose was collapsed,and when I opened the radiator cap it popped back to normal shape.........................................when I went to a parts store and had them look up a new lower hose,it had a spring inside it to prevent that from happening,mine had none!.....once I put that on it,it cured the overheating problem...I had replaced the water pump,radiator and heater hoses,thermostat and gasket,but decided to re-use the old radiator hoses,as they didn't look that old or beat--a mistake!..:doah:..
 
Yep at speed its a flow problem, can be airflow or coolant flow, but one or both of them is lacking. Do you have proper shrouding?

The shroud is the factory 90 burb shroud. The fan isnt far enough in it but i figured it wouldnt make a difference at highway speed with no load.

Also since it's a 5.3. Where did you take the steam ports from the top of the heads? You understand that the "LS" stuff flows "backwards" from what we are used to with the older 350 style systems? What size is your radiator? It is generally accepted that the "LS" line cools better than the older stuff so if the radiator was good for a 350 it should be more than good for a 5.3.

plus all of the above. This seems like a flow issue like has been mentioned several time.

The steam port goes from the outlet, through the throttle body, then down to the t-stat housing. The radiator is the factory style for the 90 burb and never had a problem with the 350.

It might need a spring inside the lower radiator hose--I've had a few older vehicles that overheated only at higher speeds and one day I noticed when I opened the hood,that the lower hose was collapsed,and when I opened the radiator cap it popped back to normal shape.........................................when I went to a parts store and had them look up a new lower hose,it had a spring inside it to prevent that from happening,mine had none!.....once I put that on it,it cured the overheating problem...I had replaced the water pump,radiator and heater hoses,thermostat and gasket,but decided to re-use the old radiator hoses,as they didn't look that old or beat--a mistake!..:doah:..

Mine is new but of coarse that doesnt really mean anything. I dont recall now if this one had a spring in it or not.
 
Get the truck up to operating temperature and feel for cold spots on the core... If there are any, then you should pull the rad and at least get it flushed. Obviously, if the rad has no blockage in it, the whole thing should be warm/hot.
 
What thermostat are you running? If none sometimes the coolant runs too fast at higher rpm to transfer the heat.
 
The shroud is the factory 90 burb shroud. The fan isnt far enough in it but i figured it wouldnt make a difference at highway speed with no load.



The steam port goes from the outlet, through the throttle body, then down to the t-stat housing. The radiator is the factory style for the 90 burb and never had a problem with the 350.



Mine is new but of coarse that doesnt really mean anything. I dont recall now if this one had a spring in it or not.

The Fan shroud position on the fan can make a difference.

I know that it is generally accepted in some circles to run the steam ports to the t-stat, I haven't heard that myself until reading it here. The important thing is that it goes to a low pressure area. The block is a high pressure area, if you have the steam ports running to a high pressure area you might have air locked the block and that's what is causing the problem. Double check yourself on the steam port routing. We ran the one on the race car to the upper Rad. hose.

That's all I have.
 
Clutch fan?
There is a huge load on the fan when you are at speed. If some of your clutch fluid has leaked out, it may be slipping at high RPMs.
 
I was under the impression that as long as you werent pulling a hill or load that you should all but be able to remove the fan at highway speeds due to all the air rushing through the radiatior naturally. Is that not true?

Yes it is a clucth fan. Nearly brand new with only 1000 miles on the truck it came off of. Not to say that its good.

Im running a 195 stat that is also new.

LOTS of dudes out there run the steam port line into the water pumps and have no problems. I figure the t-stat housing should be the same no? It stays right at 195-197 idling and around town. Also cools back down to 195 within a minute or two after getting off the freeway.
 
The fan shouldn't be coming into play while running down the freeway. If it was related to the fan or shroud you would have more overheating issues around town and idling.

The only time I have had overheating issues while on the freeway was blockage of the radiator (got into a deep mud hole and clogged the radiator)...faster I went the hotter it got.
 
Yea, i have had issues a few times in the past with idling in traffic and stuff like that but never a highway hotness issue.
 
I was under the impression that as long as you werent pulling a hill or load that you should all but be able to remove the fan at highway speeds due to all the air rushing through the radiatior naturally. Is that not true?

I have heard that myself many times, but no one ever offers any data to back it up. I always pretty much believed it though.
Seemed to make sense to me.
My first inkling that it might not be that simple was when I bought my F250 with the supercooling package.
Extra big radiator, other fluid coolers, and a more powerful fan with heavier duty clutch.
Batting down the four lane highway one hot afternoon, after I had had it a couple of days, I heard a car or truck coming up along side me.
Startled me a little, because I had not seen anything coming in my mirrors.

After a few seconds, it seemed to vanish. Never did see anything. After a few minutes, here it came again.
Finally turned the radio off, and started listening.

Everything would be fine, then I would hear this increasing roar which would hang in there for a few seconds and then fade away.
Turned out it was that big fan kicking in. I could see the temp gauge move up slightly, the roar would come on, and it would move back down.

This was at 70 mph. Of course, it was a hot day and I had the air con on. I soon got used to it.
Couple of years later, I damaged the clutch driving through some deep water. The truck would overheat a little at idle, but would also run hotter than normal at speed.

I asked about it when I was having the clutch replaced, and the mechanic made a good point.
Said that it might be fine at highway speeds with no fan, but with it in there blocking the air and not turning fast enough to get out of the air's way, it was going to run hot.

Having said all that, I like the idea of the hose sucking flat.

Also, I have seen two different water pump problems that might give you trouble. One, was a rebuilt that actually had the wrong impeller put on. Everything matched, bolted right up, but would not pump worth a darn.

The other one, was also a rebuilt, that the impeller came loose on the shaft. Idling it would pump enough to keep things cool.
But when called upon to deliver more water flow, it slipped.

As for the clutch, look for oil stains, and give it a spin when hot and cold. It should stop almost instantly when hot.
Heck, just put your hand behind it and rev the engine. If it doesn't blow strong, suspect the clutch.
Also, making even slight amounts of change of where some of the hoses hook up could cause problems.
As fast as it cools off, it might be that the area of the engine where the temp sensor mounts is getting starved for coolant when the flow gets high.
Then when you slow down, it gets coolant again and responds fast
 
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