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Powerstroke differences

joecowap

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I'm looking in to purchasing a F250 or 350, for my tow rig. I'm usually a chevy only guy, but i need the room the crew cabs offer. I'm not a fan of the durasmacks, known to many people that have had problems with them. And the dodge's crew cab are just to small, I'm 6'4" leaving no room for the seat behind me. The mega cabs are just out of my price range. So to the question. I've noticed there are two powerstrokes, the 6.0 and 7.3. I'm wondering if there is much difference in the two besides the obvious displacement and hp and torque numbers. Any problems with either. Also i'm looking in the year range from 99-05. Thanks
 
There are huge differences in the two engines. The 6.0 is a POS. Do yourself a favor and stick to the 7.3L. Ford stopped even trying to fix the programming problems with the 6.0, and that's besides all the injector and turbo problems.:doah: I bought an '05 D-max, even though I liked the Cummins engine better, because the auto trans would actually last a while in the Chevy. Just keep in mind that the auto won't last in the Ford either, unless it's really built. Then it'll last a couple years.
 
I've got a 7.3 thats been my daily driver since about 02 and its a good truck. Had a 6.0 for about 2 years in my company fleet and it was a big pos, I will never own another or buy from another Ford diesel again after the b.s. I went through. Also, my sister and b.i.l. picked up one of the 6.4's when they came out a couple years ago - they've had lots of problems with it.
 
no to 6.0
I traded my 03 in on my last trip to oklahoma becouse it just quit running, no codes or indicaters but just didnt want to work and left on the side of the road for many hours at a time. They have had a lot of ipr and injector and turbo issues that I found after buying it. My next diesel will be a dodge, if I ever buy another diesel.
 
To sum it up, stay away from the 6.0's , there were so many problems with them , Ford and International (maker of the powerstrokes) are parting ways and Ford will be using a in house diesel in their trucks (last I heard).
 
The new Powerstrokes are 6.4 Liters (2008+). My room mate has an '08, with just a programmer, and exhaust, he put down 513hp/1026torque the weekend before last to the rear wheels. They are an improvement over the 6.0 (I would recommend staying away from 6.0's, especially the first year, they were built from 2003 - 2007). He also has a '97 with a 7.3, and has about $6,000 worth of mods to the engine, that makes much less power. The 7.3 Powerstroke was built from 1994 - 2003.

The 7.3 is probably your best bet, stay away from 2003 6.0's, the verdict is still out on 6.4's, but they seem to be okay.

Martin
 
I have a 96 CC F350 with the 7.3 and a five speed.Engine has 367K on it and for the most part has been trouble free.If you get a 7.3 plan on puttin a crankshaft sensor in it,or at least see if it's been changed.They will run just as long as a Cummins if maintained.
 
You should read about the powerstroke problems on a Ford Forum. Basically, all versions of the engines, 7.3, 6.0, and 6.4 (each year has it's own personality...PROBLEMS) all have unreliable components. i.e. sensors, egr, and poor design flaws. But, when the bad parts have been replaced they all make very good dependable truck engines.

That sounds bad.

Why the heck can't they just fix the design flaws?

The 04 up 6.0 is better than the 03.

The final years of the 7.3 had issues too.

The 6.4 has too much emissions crap.

There are several schemes that people follow when they improve these engines. All are documented on the forums and when complete you have a really good truck engine. If you found a deal on one and do all your own work, its not that bad.

I have a tuned '04 6.0, it has been dyno-jet to 700 lb/ft of torque at the rear wheels. 120,000 miles, 21 MPG hwy, 19 city, and the only flaw to show up so far is the IPC sensor, injector pressure control. $150 to fix myself, Or $500 at the stealership.

I clean the EGR every 50,000 miles and dump the tranny fluid pan and re-fill every 25,000 miles. Never flush, and never total changed all the fluid at one time, so as not to shock the system with fresh fluid. Change the tranny filter every 100,000 miles.

Most important... Don't let a Ford mechanic near it.

I know several people who have a 7.3 with over 650,000 miles and the only repair work other than oil and fluids is they changed the clutch every 300,000 miles.

Some people have 300,000 miles plus on the 6.0, they aren't old enough to have racked up more. It really isn't the engine that has problems lasting, it's the electronic crap that can't take the under the hood temperature. Most powerstroke forums have people who claim to have prematurely replaced turbos, and sensors, and injectors due to a stupid Ford stealership that couldn't diagnose the problem correctly, later after repeated problems thay found a $7 wiring harness adapter had failed due to the dry rot or heat next to the turbo manifolds. Ford having already charged them for the replacement part. You have to really try hard to trash a turbo in less than several hundred thousand miles, but the turbo pressure sensor can fail in under a thousand miles. Engines don't need all this electronic crap.

My advise, buy an early 80's chevy crew cab 4x4 with a built 454, it will get 10 MPG max, and it will cost $5000, put another couple grand into making it pretty, and run the **** out of it, then 5 years later drop a freightliner or detroit inline or cummins in it. It will be cheaper long run.

It seems that even with a new truck, you have to built it to make it the way you want.
 
I know several people who have a 7.3 with over 650,000 miles and the only repair work other than oil and fluids is they changed the clutch every 300,000 miles.


In 650K they have at least put one css,vavle covergasket,uvch or fuel heater on it.You forgot about the dual mass flywheel also.Mine went out at 280K.
 
You have to really try hard to trash a turbo in less than several hundred thousand miles, but the turbo pressure sensor can fail in under a thousand miles. Engines don't need all this electronic crap.
I'm pretty sure the turbos were actually bad on the crap Fords at work, and all were still under warranty at the first turbo replacement. I think the oil pouring through the seals and excessive lateral play is a pretty good indication, and these do not tow at all. They are strictly mobile service trucks with utility beds ('04-'07 F-450's), and they almost all smoked front wheel bearings early in the game, too.:crazy:
BTW, they need all this electronic crap if they want to be allowed to sell them in the U.S.:rolleyes:
 
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