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Pushrods scored by guides

anwat

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You are looking at brand new pushrods with about 30 minutes of idle time on them. Was this wear caused by the rockers being too loose? It's clearly rubbing on the guides, but I'm not understanding what I did wrong. The only issue I had was the rockers had loosened up on the passenger's side by the time I finished adjusting the driver's side. I noticed some of the nuts on the rockers were kind of loose when I put them on. I used new rockers, nuts and rods on everything. In the second photo, I've replaced all the intake rods (they were the only ones with the scoring) did the cold lash and made sure the rods are in the center of the guide with a feeler gauge. Once it was all tight, I went along an put a crimp nut on top, but I noticed that on some of the studs, I could install the crimp nut with my fingers all the way down to the rocker nut. That doesn't seem right, and it doesn't seem like it's going to prevent that nut from backing out again.
So here's my questions: Can the threads on those rocker studs wear to the point the nuts won't be tight enough to hold? They aren't backing out, the nuts just aren't tight, even the prevailing torque nuts are only finger tight on many of them. And second, is that wear on the rods typical of a loose rocker? By the time I got back over to the passenger's side, there were several rockers that were already loose and I could hear the valves.
Replace the studs? Get Polylocks for the rockers? Or is it something I'm not doing right? Unless I'm way off, the old rocker nuts are actually tighter than the new ones that came with the rockers.
 
Guideplates require hardened pushrods made for use with guideplates, if you used a low end pushrod it likely isn't hardened and that's what can happen.

Hardened pushrods should fix that assuming the guideplates aren't too small or something but you would know that when you install them if they don't slide freely.

As far as the nuts loosening usually the nut wears out not the stud. If the new nuts are loose I would use better quality nuts or use poly locks.
 
Makes sense...The guideplates were there, as were the studs. I just changed the rockers and rods, and I don't think the rods were hardened. I did order the intake and exhaust from different vendors, so maybe the exhaust rods were hardened and the intakes weren't, but only the intakes were scored. I was thinking if the rocker got loose enough, the rod would be able to move to the side and scrape the guideplate. Would the machine shop remove the guideplates and studs when they did the valve job? Maybe they put them back in a slightly different place? Point taken about the quality of parts, it's a frequent topic here. I just found it odd that probably 10 of the 16 prevailing torque nuts can be screwed on to the studs with my fingers...but I guess the only option is to get polylocks at this point.
 

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