Q's for tires/wheel pros

[Fancy]

So i have heard alot about the troubles of trying to balance H1 wheels and tries and have a question for the pros.

I was thinking I would balance the rims by themselves (of course this would require keeping the 2 pieces aligned at all times) and then using BB or media to balance the tires.

Would this help or is this pointless? Should i just balance then as a combo?

 

[CherryK5]

20 ounces of beads would balance those bad boys!

 

[Blue85]

I don't think the problem is balancing. The problem is that stuff isn't straight or round. The runout also makes things look less round. Of course these problems make them even more out of balance. You can fix the balance with Airsofts and get decent results. But if you have anything loose up front or any Death Wobble tendencies, a set of heavy, off-center, crooked, unbalanced wheels and tires will find it and amplify it. I'm making it sound bad, but the truth is that a simple pile of airsofts will make them work just fine. Not smooth as glass, but good enough for a jacked up antique truck.

I would be curious to see what a wheel truing shop could do with some H1's. You would have to mark the two pieces of the wheel so that you can't mix them up or install them in a different orientation. Since the wheels are 2-piece, they will never bolt together "perfectly" straight every time. How much of an effect this has....we may never know.

 

[bdumont]

I have 15x10 allied beadlocks on my truck and they are about as heavy. I mounted them myself and had just a little vibration. I tried having them balanced, and putting various materials inside to balance. At the end of the day, nothing changed them too much and I just learned to deal with a slight vibration.

 

[sweetk30]

10+ years as tire guy the biggest problem in balence of a combo of tire/rim is the tire quality .

second in line is a stright rim thats not bent. but that can be easy to overcome.

for years i mounted lots of big mud tires and rim combos.

i also found lots of problems with balence/ride complants. 90% of the time basicly it was the tire was out of round/flat spot/just frigin heavy . the rim was a lot less of the problem that lots of people would think.

i could mount brand 1 tire in 33" mud tread on test rim. balence it out with weights.

then use same rim and mount brand 2 tire in same 33" size and mud tread. it would take far less weight to balence on the same rim.

so in short its got more to do with the rubber than the rim if you had to pick one.

and i run 37" g/y mt hummer tires on nice aluminum rims zero weights to balence. ride smoth at 70mph. then i have 35" general grabber m/t on aluminum rims and zero balence weights ride good. had a set of 38x12.50x16.5 tsl bias and no matter what i did 35-40 mph had a shake. and the rims were dead perfect.

 

[Fancy]

Well thanks for the advice i just drive my truck a lot and have recently jumped into re-centering H1's and it seemed so easy at first but now i am starting to see all the hassle not too worried about weight just want decent ride without crazy vibrations.

 

[cybrfire]

You could balance the wheel seperately and then put the tire on and spend some time moving the tire from one orientation to another on the rim and minimizing the amount of out of balance it is.

I don't suppose you'd have to balance the wheel seperately to do it.