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quick steer.....

gotcha....good info...i used to do this:

http://westtexasoffroad.homestead.com/powersteering.html

to all my pumps then i realized that i was going throgh like a pump every month and i got tired of changing them....didnt cost me anything (o'ryeilly's is bad ass)...it just got old....they were bad ass though, just didnt last very long....i decided not to mess with the one on the cummins...
 
I think at this point you need to figure out what you're willing to sacrafice on the road in order to fit your off-road needs...

Heck put a small Grant steering wheel on and track down a suicide ball and call it good :)
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oneofthefewbmx said:
Im sure it cant be that bad, hell my 19 year old 115 lb (see pic) girlfriend can do it WITHOUT power steering on her dirt track car..

..does mechanical advantage really matter with power steering, especially with hydraulic assist?..
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Big difference between a 1,500 lb. car on 22" tall tires moving at higher speeds verus a 6,000 lb. truck on 44's creeping around the trails!

Mechanical advantage still matters some with anything besides full hydraulic.....it's a lot easier to turn the wheel while moving then sitting still on a stock setup so that means the power you put into the steering wheel with your arms is doing something.

I'm not trying to say the steering quickener won't work or anything as I'm curious to find out, but I am somewhat skeptical.
 
A lot of it is simply going to depend on the power steering pump IMO.

As I understand it, more pressure, more assist. That's one of the reasons you have no "road feel" through the older GM steering systems.

Some GM cars used a "quick ratio" box, but I never notice any difference in the amount of effort required to turn the wheel, it simply takes less turns to get there.

This is the main factor in frames tear...the power steering is so "strong". (coupled with weak frame, etc) Turn the truck off and try to steer it at 25MPH and a dead stop. Very little "advantage" through the box itself, it's the assist that does all the work.
 
dyeager535 said:
A lot of it is simply going to depend on the power steering pump IMO.

As I understand it, more pressure, more assist. That's one of the reasons you have no "road feel" through the older GM steering systems.

Some GM cars used a "quick ratio" box, but I never notice any difference in the amount of effort required to turn the wheel, it simply takes less turns to get there.

This is the main factor in frames tear...the power steering is so "strong". (coupled with weak frame, etc) Turn the truck off and try to steer it at 25MPH and a dead stop. Very little "advantage" through the box itself, it's the assist that does all the work.
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It's hard to compare completely different types of cars and trucks to each other and there are lots of other factors coming into play. The length of the steering arms, pitman arms, and other geometry all play a major role in how much leverage can be exerted on the tires.

The "assist" definitely does not do all of the work......a large percentage yes, but not all. On almost any car/truck I have worked on with powersteering you can still turn the wheels with the engine off.
 
6.2Blazer said:
The "assist" definitely does not do all of the work......a large percentage yes, but not all. On almost any car/truck I have worked on with powersteering you can still turn the wheels with the engine off.
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that is true, i know first hand. i ran out of gas and had protechk5 tow me with a chain on the road and i had to manually steer my 1ton k5 on 40's that had hydro-assist as he towed me. kinda scary, but it worked
 
If power steering didn't do that much work, turning the wheel while sitting would be easy. Even on a car with a smaller contact patch, it's very difficult to move the wheel with no assist and no forward movement.

Also the reason manual steering isn't simply the deletion of the pump.
 
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