I talked with a guy that had them on his tow truck, he burned up two or three of them I forget now but they were the industrial ones and he told Ramsey what he was going to use them for and they recommended the ones that he had, they wouldn't warranty them so he put them on the shelf in his shop with little phrases under them, bought a standard Warn 12,000 winch. At the time that I spoke to him he had owned that winch for 3 years and never had a bit of trouble with it, OH he went through the 3 Ramseys in 1 year.
Dan
<font color=red>get involved with land issues or lose the land</font color=red>