Random question about York compressors

[dyeager535]

Stupid question, can you run it on CO2?

One would think a 10lb CO2 tank would last forever for something like that. Even a 5lb would probably last a long time.

This might give you an idea of the amount of "air" they hold: https://powertank.com/full.chart.html

Just a thought. Maybe they make some that are presentable. I agree, filling anything up is a bit of a hassle, but if you can figure out at what interval you'd need to change them, might make the decision between a compressor and some sort of storage setup a little easier.

 

[muddermilitia]

Stupid question, can you run it on CO2?

One would think a 10lb CO2 tank would last forever for something like that. Even a 5lb would probably last a long time.

This might give you an idea of the amount of "air" they hold: https://powertank.com/full.chart.html

Just a thought. Maybe they make some that are presentable. I agree, filling anything up is a bit of a hassle, but if you can figure out at what interval you'd need to change them, might make the decision between a compressor and some sort of storage setup a little easier.

I'm sure I could. In the short amount of time I have been google searching this, I found a few threads on vw forums about this since the old vws are 6v as well. Nitrogen was something that was commonly recommended for those that didn't wish to convert to 12v. Since I am only bagging the back, I think it might last quite a while before needing to be re-filled.

EDIT: Now you got me really considering this. Doing a little searching, it costs about $10-$15 per fill up, it fills the bags faster than regular air. And if you aren't playing with the switches a bunch, it will last quite awhile. It's not like I drive the thing everyday, just weekends mostly. I bet I could get through a car show season with just having the tank filled 3 or 4 times

 

[dyeager535]

The thing with CO2 is that it goes through a phase change...it's not a gas in the tank, thus you have far more "air" than any other compressed gas, like Nitrogen. Check out the 4th paragraph here: http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/inflation_zone_cfh20/index.asp So basically a 25 gallon tank at 125PSI out of 20oz of CO2.

And that's a 20oz can. I believe the paintball guys use CO2 as well, but I could be mistaken.

I was looking for a 5lb tank, but they seem to be real hard to find. I paid $100 (after recert) to get my 10lb CO2 and regulator off craigslist, and I've seen them cheaper.

 

[Fordum]

Are you trying to keep it stock as possible as a show car? If not, then converting it to 12 volt should be dead simple.
Most all the bulbs should have 12 volt equivalents. Just swap them out. If you have a starter solenoid, it will have to be changed. If it has the floor mount switch, without a solenoid, then no conversion necessary.
The existing starter will handle the 12 volts just fine.

I'm sure you can find a 12 volt coil and capacitor, but if you don't want to, then just measure the resistance of the coil, and put an appropriate wattage resistor of that value in series with the system.

About the only tricky part are the gauges, and I doubt many of them are electric.
The gas gauge will have a built in regulator, but I don't think it can handle 12 volts although it might.
But, you can use a low current ohm meter to measure the resistance of the gauge, and the sending unit.
Then add a resistor the same size as the total of those in series.

They sell 12 volt positive ground generators and voltage regulators. Not sure where I saw them, but they are available.

Of course, the battery will need to be changed.........Might be the hardest part, those 6 volt units were small......

As for the wiring, don't forget the wiring size is dictated by the current draw. And all your current draws are going to be half what they are now.

 

[Avery4jc]

I still vote compressor and tank. Nitrogen and CO2 have their place but I don't think it's ideal for your setup. I'd convert the car to 12 volts if it was me but if you don't want to I wonder what kind of air you could squeeze out of something like this?
Maybe a check valve and a decent size tank hidden somewhere under the car?
Bags obviously take very little volume, just need to be able to get up to a decent pressure...

http://www.aquariumwholesaleshop.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=595


EDIT: Scratch that. I converted the specs on it and it's approx 1CFM @ 9PSI... no, not 90... 9.

But maybe they make a bigger one?

 

[muddermilitia]

Are you trying to keep it stock as possible as a show car? If not, then converting it to 12 volt should be dead simple.
Most all the bulbs should have 12 volt equivalents. Just swap them out. If you have a starter solenoid, it will have to be changed. If it has the floor mount switch, without a solenoid, then no conversion necessary.
The existing starter will handle the 12 volts just fine.

I'm sure you can find a 12 volt coil and capacitor, but if you don't want to, then just measure the resistance of the coil, and put an appropriate wattage resistor of that value in series with the system.

About the only tricky part are the gauges, and I doubt many of them are electric.
The gas gauge will have a built in regulator, but I don't think it can handle 12 volts although it might.
But, you can use a low current ohm meter to measure the resistance of the gauge, and the sending unit.
Then add a resistor the same size as the total of those in series.

They sell 12 volt positive ground generators and voltage regulators. Not sure where I saw them, but they are available.

Of course, the battery will need to be changed.........Might be the hardest part, those 6 volt units were small......

As for the wiring, don't forget the wiring size is dictated by the current draw. And all your current draws are going to be half what they are now.

Converting to 12v is something that will eventually happen, I was just trying to hold off on it for a little while. When I read about people converting, it's usually because their headlights are dim & the engine is hard to start because it turns over so slow. The headlights on this car are surprisingly bright & I don't really have any issues getting it to start. So I was in no rush to convert. I believe a car is shown better with the hood down so I never have it up when I'm at a show unless somebody starts asking me questions about the motor or something. So I'm not worried about stock appearance under the hood.

I still vote compressor and tank. Nitrogen and CO2 have their place but I don't think it's ideal for your setup. I'd convert the car to 12 volts if it was me but if you don't want to I wonder what kind of air you could squeeze out of something like this?
Maybe a check valve and a decent size tank hidden somewhere under the car?
Bags obviously take very little volume, just need to be able to get up to a decent pressure...

http://www.aquariumwholesaleshop.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=595


EDIT: Scratch that. I converted the specs on it and it's approx 1CFM @ 9PSI... no, not 90... 9.

But maybe they make a bigger one?

Lol, I spotted that same pump during my searches as well. This years plan was to go through the cooling system & do new exhaust. The following year I was hoping to do the air suspension, but in the meantime I wanted to try and search for parts at the swap meets. Hopefully save myself a little $$