rear shock setup for sand dune toy

[GMC500]

hello,

what shock setup is better for sand dune racing ?
staggered shocks (OEM style) or shock in-boarding ?

the truck is a 1986 GMC k15
with 450hp 454 bbc + SM465/NP205 + 14BFF (locked) /10B (to be locked) 3.73 + 33" Maxxis Big Horns
and stock suspension with minor lift

thanks,
Ahmed

 

[JDNobodi]

This is one area I need to work on my blazer. If the hill is whooped out bad, my truck bounces around bad. My blazer's stock style shocks on works fine when it is smooth. It is hardly smooth at the dunes.

Edit-I don't think stock or inboarding is ideal for the dunes. The best I've experience while riding somebody's else blazer is a pair of Foxs mounted vertical off the spring plates to shock hoop inside the bed.

 

[GMC500]

Edit-I don't think stock or inboarding is ideal for the dunes. The best I've experience while riding somebody's else blazer is a pair of Foxs mounted vertical off the spring plates to shock hoop inside the bed.

isn't staggered mounting is better with regard to eliminating axle wrap ?

what do you prefer
4 staggered shocks ( one on each corner )
or
vertical Foxs

thanks

 

[USSkoval]

It seems to me that the only benefit of staggered is to reduce wheel hop under acceleration.

 

[ktmoutfront]

Anti wrap bar for wheel hop elimination. Triple bypass over the axle as far out as you can get. Then air bump stops.

 

[JDNobodi]

isn't staggered mounting is better with regard to eliminating axle wrap ?

what do you prefer
4 staggered shocks ( one on each corner )
or
vertical Foxs

thanks

This one area I have not experiment with my blazer. I'm running Cal-traks and they eliminate the axle hop (going forward though).
For shocks, I'm running in the stock location with Pro-Comp adjustable shocks and it sucks.

 

[GMC500]

Anti wrap bar for wheel hop elimination. Triple bypass over the axle as far out as you can get. Then air bump stops.

please explain more
what do you mean by air bump stops and triple bypass

 

[NorCal_Chris]

please explain more
what do you mean by air bump stops and triple bypass

Basically he is telling you the most awsome setup you could run on the back.. Triple bypass for sweet whoop soaking action and the air bumps to aide in those massive jumps.

Triple Bypass shocks =

Air bumps

 

[ktmoutfront]

Do not need to do the coil over. But it does add adjust ability.

 

[Avery4jc]

I agree with KTM. My truck is far from the whoop soaking machine his is but I run my shocks over my spring plates going vertical along with an anti-wrap bar which eliminated all of my wheel hop.

 

[ktmoutfront]

I agree with KTM. My truck is far from the whoop soaking machine his is but I run my shocks over my spring plates going vertical along with an anti-wrap bar which eliminated all of my wheel hop.

Yep. But the bypass would be soooooo much better. With low air pressure in the tires and on sand the air bump stop is not that important. Just the ultimate.

 

[Avery4jc]

Bypasses would be sweet but that's $$$. Until I link this truck this setup was relatively cheap and seems to work pretty well.

 

[blazinzuk]

Shocks as straight up and down as possible and as far out as possible (as has been said) Then the absolute best shocks you can buy. bilsteins at the very least.

Air bumps are very important too. You will not believe how much speed you can pick up in whoops with just air bumps and a decent set of shocks

 

[GMC500]

I agree with KTM. My truck is far from the whoop soaking machine his is but I run my shocks over my spring plates going vertical along with an anti-wrap bar which eliminated all of my wheel hop.

Avery

do you have more pics or build thread of the anti-wrap bar ?

 

[Fred_M1010]

isn't staggered mounting is better with regard to eliminating axle wrap ?

what do you prefer
4 staggered shocks ( one on each corner )
or
vertical Foxs

thanks

I believe the staggered mount is better if you want to reduce axle-wrap.
Maybe not so much because of the "staggering" (even if I may have given that impression in another thread)
But more because of the lower mounts are positioned a little in front and "after" after the axle.
I think that helps with dealing with the rotational force.

But I haven't driven in sand so I don't now if axle-wrap is a big issue there.
But if it's anything like driving in snow, then it's a really big issue...

 

[Avery4jc]

Avery

do you have more pics or build thread of the anti-wrap bar ?

I didn't do a build thread but I posted some pics when it was done in this thread.