yep controlling your suspension if it has lots of flex is very important and will enhance the capability of your truck overall
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rear suspension-3 link or 4 link????
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yep controlling your suspension if it has lots of flex is very important and will enhance the capability of your truck overall
been thinking about using airbags mounted mid way on the lower arms.that way i can adjust as needed for weight in the truck and foce articulation if needed.
i think a 10" bag would give enough travel.
a search for airbags doesnt cover it.mostly just overload bags.
good idea or bad?
i think a 10" bag would give enough travel.
a search for airbags doesnt cover it.mostly just overload bags.
good idea or bad?
The more volume in a bag i.e. bigger it is the better the ride. Problem being is that once they get so big it makes them susceptible to damage.
I am not so sure I would trust an airbag in your kind of wheeling they are very hard to puncture but it would suck to lose pretty much all your lift on one side
I am not so sure I would trust an airbag in your kind of wheeling they are very hard to puncture but it would suck to lose pretty much all your lift on one side
If your changing spring rates on the trail your doing something wrong. I have run the same spring rate for 6 years, recently added a LOT of weight to the rig and still decided to keep the same spring rate. With coilovers we did have the ability to just adjust the ride height to what we wanted with the spring rate.
I will say this. It's all about the shocks. Quality and longevity have a cost. It may be time or money but it all cost something.
ive only added N2 to my air shocks when they were put on.ive never messed with them on the trail,but i could if i wanted to and i could change the ride height like you stated
odin
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Its also possible to adjust ride height with coils.
Adjustable mounts.
As far as dependability, IMHO ,coils have all the others beat.
Adjustable mounts.
As far as dependability, IMHO ,coils have all the others beat.
cant adjust spring rate though like i stated
odin
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Correct.
That hasnt been an issue though.
I can buy a whole pile of coils for the price of an airshock.
how many times has it been offroad though?and on an escursion where you are gone for day?im gonna venture and say never for the excursion and neither has mine.mine has been offroad plenty of times.ive been in a truck with coils before and for the little amount of money air shocks are (in comparrison to coilovers) id take air shocks all day long.
odin
1/2 ton status
Plenty of offroad use...even all day at times with a quad in the back.
For your application ( no body or weight over the rear axle) airshocks may be a good choice.
However this thread is geared towards a Blazer carrying a load.
me personally,if i was gonna take all the time and spend the hundred of dollars of rod ends,tube,misalignment spacers and bolts i wouldnt waste my time with some used coild springs that i cant adjust.plus i look at things like if i was somewere and it broke what would i do.most of the place i wheel have vendors on site.them having an air shock-likeley and used coil out of something-unlikely.its whatever floats your boat but if you ever felt the diffrence you would be amazed just like i would if i rode in something with coilovers.if i EVER did my front id only use coilovers.mabye i just like to overbuild things or do it right the first time.thats prolly why my front isnt linked yet
as far for the OP id only go coilovers or king 2.5s or air bags in his case.2.5 air shocks are expensive though
as far for the OP id only go coilovers or king 2.5s or air bags in his case.2.5 air shocks are expensive though
odin
1/2 ton status
I think its Far more likely to blow an airshock than break a coil spring...
But thats just me.
But thats just me.
yep they are easy to blow if your limiting straps arent setup right unlike mine.ive prolly seen at least 10 cases of people loosing coils and them getting bent on the trail.last ride i was on the guy drove his there,bent both springs,broke both shocks.he was pretty much screwed.i kept wheeling while he was figureing that out.if i had ever even thought about coils that changed my mind right there.proof
in the meantime here is what i did on that ride till i decided to leave them
sat there
also look at the treands how many people run air shocks/coilovers vs coil springs?there is a reason behind that
in the meantime here is what i did on that ride till i decided to leave them
sat there
also look at the treands how many people run air shocks/coilovers vs coil springs?there is a reason behind that
Using air shocks or coilovers can easily double or triple the cost of linking a suspension. Nothing to sneeze at.
I'm still using TJ coils in the rear of mine, I have 3 sets that I got for free with little/no effort (two of them were brought to me). It couldn't possibly be easier to find spare or replacement springs than that.
Now, of course, they're not the ideal option. Basically, coilovers are. But they run $500 a set.
My suspension works pretty damn well with free springs and $25 shocks.
I will be almost certainly be going to coilovers before next season but it will be to replace the leaves in the front before it will replace the coils in the rear.
Cheap coils CAN work just fine, you just have to find a set that has the length and spring rate close to what you need.
air shocks are cheap though.most think they are really expensive.here are mine free shipping as well.
they have gone up in price.mine were 400 bucks shipped and mine are 18 inch wich i guess they dont offer anymore
http://downsouthmotorsports.com/i-135521-king-2-0-air-shocks-nitrogen.html
they have gone up in price.mine were 400 bucks shipped and mine are 18 inch wich i guess they dont offer anymore
http://downsouthmotorsports.com/i-135521-king-2-0-air-shocks-nitrogen.html
also to add to all that.the terrain changes alot.west coast and east coast are 2 diffent animals.i have hear the air shocks arent good out there especially at the hammers.the most pimp option is theese
http://www.oristruts.com/dp3strut.html
theese are really nice as well
http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/NEW-Ballistic-Hybrid-CoiloverAir-Shock_p_1649.html
the guestion is with all the gear he runs would the best option for him be coils.id say no but thats just me.not even air shocks.if i was him id save up and go for coilovers
coilovers would be nice if they could be packaged so they didnt intrude into the interior.also when we run in its loaded heavy then unloaded at camp and run for a week or so.the ability to adjust would be real nice.with the stock 52s it is squated 4-5" when loaded.
i have been looking at the different types if link suspensions and have decided on either a 4 link or the try link-upper wishbone style.
i have seen them done with heims at all connections and with bushings on one end of the links and bushings at both ends.i know they flex better with the heims but i am kinda worried about durablity due to us running in mud and glacial silt all the time.could i run a johnny joint at the frame end on the lower links to hlep keep them out of the stuff and run a bushing at the axle end and be ok still?
i have been looking at the different types if link suspensions and have decided on either a 4 link or the try link-upper wishbone style.
i have seen them done with heims at all connections and with bushings on one end of the links and bushings at both ends.i know they flex better with the heims but i am kinda worried about durablity due to us running in mud and glacial silt all the time.could i run a johnny joint at the frame end on the lower links to hlep keep them out of the stuff and run a bushing at the axle end and be ok still?
There are several rebuild able joints out there. The ones I have used have been summit machine joints. Pretty nice and easy to rebuild if you have the right tool. which is very small and can be packed easily. Rebuild kits for them aren't that much. You can use pretty much any combo of bushing, flex joint, heim you want, but if you reach the heim or flex joints capacity (alot are way less than you may think) the bushing will get chewed up. Which can lead to as many problems as a worn heim.
i personally perfer heims but for your aplication id prolly go bushings all the way around.
howdiy-do you know air shocks are based off unsprung weight?have you ever reserced a 2.5 air shock?
howdiy-do you know air shocks are based off unsprung weight?have you ever reserced a 2.5 air shock?
