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rewiring... everything. lol!

If the stock wiring isn't hacked up too much, my *opinion* would be to keep it. GM did a perfect job designing it, all you end up doing is duplicating GM's design with newer parts essentially. My friend just went through his, removing all the excess miscellaneous wires previous owners had stuffed under the dash.

The '85 fuse panel has PLENTY of 30amp accessory terminals that can be utilized, I've got tons of stuff plugged into mine, even doubled up with factory locking connectors. I just added a small fuse holder like shown in the picture above to protect each circuit with the correct amp fuse. I've done quite a bit of wiring on mine, adding 4wd indicator light, TPI, electric fans, etc., so I think I've got a good handle on this wiring, or at least how well it was designed, especially for expansion.

For the wiring I had to add that I duplicated original GM, I used weatherpacks, initially all from here Weatherpack stuff Later on, I just started taking my de-pinning tool to the wrecking yard and getting connectors from there. Just buy a bunch of the male/female pins, the seals for them, and you won't have to worry about mixing wire colors up, etc. when splicing. The smaller flat connectors GM used later on might be ok, but most I've seen (except the relay connectors) aren't made for much load. Weatherpacks seem to be large enough to handle just about anything, short of the battery cable itself.

I didn't buy the crimp tool, I used wire crimpers or needle nose pliers with good effect, then soldered the wire to the connector. Haven't had a single problem yet. The depinner is necessary IMO. Ballpoint pen refill is supposed to work as well, but I had no luck with them though.
 
Consider going w/ relays instead of fuses. That way if something trips, all you have to do is turn it off, then back on again.
 
shane74 said:
Consider going w/ relays instead of fuses. That way if something trips, all you have to do is turn it off, then back on again.

That's circuit breakers, im definately going to run those, and i think its a better option for an off road truck. Most race buggies run circuit breakers so you dont have to worry about blowing fuses, instead you carry around a few extra circuit breakers in case one goes bad. Seems like a good idea to me, except for the extra cost.
 
zcarczar said:
That's circuit breakers, im definately going to run those, and i think its a better option for an off road truck. Most race buggies run circuit breakers so you dont have to worry about blowing fuses, instead you carry around a few extra circuit breakers in case one goes bad. Seems like a good idea to me, except for the extra cost.

where can you get cheap 30 amp circuit breakers
 
Great post!

I am talking with SeaBass about his custom panels - will try to remember to post here when I have some details.
 
As long as you don't have stuff ganged up on them, circuit breakers are good. If you blow a circuit breaker but have 4 items running off of it, you have more work to do, besides, do most stock (read=free from wrecking yards) automotive breakers reset themselves?

I haven't paid TOO much attention to the new cars, but it looks like they are running a lot more circuit breakers, although I have a feeling that is just used instead of fusible links, since they still have fuse panels. As long as the individual breaker isn't overrated for the circuit you are trying to protect, you'll be fine. I know the small blade breakers used in the stock fuse panels can be had from at least 10-30 amps, which covers about 90% of the range of the accessories.
 
I've been thinking about this junk. As far as I can tell, when I remove the factory dash, I'll need switches 'n' stuff for...

1) headlights w/ brights
2) guage illumination
3) heater (mohave)
4) rocklights
5) electric fan (maybe 2, i might have a small fan on a tranny cooler at some point)
6) horn (dont like the center-of-wheel horn button with the streering wheel I have... but I really like the rest of the wheel, lol)

wipers / washers / turn signals are on the column already, prolly keep 'em there, tho I will "need" turn signal indicators on the dash...

think thats it... unless I'm forgeting something. anyone else have switches for anything else in their rig?

j
 
I'll probably keep guage illumination seperate from my headlight switch... sometimes I want one and not the other.

Thats the dimmer switch, which is part of the headlight switch. You can make the gauge illumination as bright or dim as you want, or turn it off entirely.

I'd agree with not re-wiring if you don't have to. GM did a fine job wiring their trucks. It IS a PITA to figure out what other people did to the electrical sys. and clean it up, but it is cheaper. You can still make your custom gauge panel and leave the rest of the wiring pretty much alone.

Fuse blocks fill up and then your back to altering. If you had a large amp supply post in the cab. You can add another fuse block.

Very true. Thats why I recommend the 18 circ. harnesses. A lot of times its easier down the road.

Circuit breakers seem to be a good way to waste all that extra $ we all have lying around. ;) Fuses arnt that expensive, theyre easy to replace, and if you do a good job with youre wiring, youll never blow a fuse anyway.
 
mountain4x4 said:
Thats the dimmer switch, which is part of the headlight switch. You can make the gauge illumination as bright or dim as you want, or turn it off entirely.

but my guages are going to be LED-lit... no need for dimming. ;) I'll probably redo the headlight switching, if for no other reason than to fix my brights... which don't have a switch to turn them on. I think some previous owner added cruise control (talk about a waste of time/$/effort) and when they did the switch for the brights went bye-bye. basically, I carry a couple of spare lamps on the front of my truck, lol! To fix that problem forever, I'd like seperate switches for both sets of headlights... and guage illumination seperate too. Sometimes I want to run my lights during the daylight hours for safety reasons, and during that time I don't need/want guage lighting to be on.

I'd agree with not re-wiring if you don't have to. GM did a fine job wiring their trucks. It IS a PITA to figure out what other people did to the electrical sys. and clean it up, but it is cheaper. You can still make your custom gauge panel and leave the rest of the wiring pretty much alone.

yeah, maybe you guys are right. I think what I need to do first is go through and yank everything I don't want and the few things I'd like to redo (headlights, guages etc) and then go from there.

Another question: whats the deal with fusible links? They seem kinda silly... couldn't a person just use a breaker...or something else that doesn't self destruct when overloaded and accomplish the same thing?

j
 
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