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Rolling over

mrk5 said:
I confess, I've always been curious to know what kind of angles the truck has been at. That being said, knowing the angle isn't going to help too much. First, when you're in a butt puckering off-camber situation, the last thing you're going to think about doing is looking at an angle gauge. You'd almost want to put a camera on that gauge so you could review the video later.

Most of the flops I've seen, and done myself, were due to a tire dropping into a hole. It's literally like the bottom fell out from under it. It can be a pretty gentle flop, but it still happens quicker than you'd think.

If you're going slow and controlled it's pretty amazing the angle you can get. Here are a couple of good examples from a recent trail run.


At about 1:40 in the video below is another good example.

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I disagree a little but not much. I was on a side hill once and it felt really like it was close. But I had an opportunity to back out , but didn’t. If I would of had the gauge at that time to tell me how close I was, I would of backed out for sure. But I did get through but my 300lb buddy, was hanging out the other side for counter weight, lol. Thanks for the videos. I don’t do rock climbing, but I like to hill climb.
 
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In that circumstance, yes it could help. But a lot of times there isn't a chance to check it. There are also a lot of variables that will effect it.

You could rent a forklift and test it out. Put a strap on the truck with just enough slack so you know when it's going over due to gravity taking over.
 
I have some of the bubble angle gauges in the Snocat. The thing I dont like is it means different things depending on if you are going uphill or downhill or level but sidehilling. The thing I do like is that sometimes in a bad snowstorm near whiteout it kind of acts like an artificial horizon.
 
Hang a 400 lb buddy out the other side like on a catamaran...

Seriously, so many factors involved. Remember Merrick, from Merricks garage?
He left here and started a y.t. channel. He flipped his K5 doing donuts on flat ground...

He has a fleet of trucks now. Cool channel, I drop in from time to time.
 
Why in a rollover it seems like slow motion.

I’ve been In three. First one was in my moms 68 Cougar I was probably 7 years old. Dad was driving it ,we hit black ice and flipped landing back on the wheels.

Second I was 18 Driving my 72 Landcruiser on the dirtbike trails in our back yard, went go around a tree hit a log on the ground and it flopped.

Third I was 22 or so driving my 81 Landcruiser on pavement with my buddy. It was during a big storm at night, a tree was across the road hanging at windshield height. I slammed the brakes and carved left we did a 180 on the pavement and hit the gravel shoulder, it flopped.

All seemed like slow motion to me.
 
So many variables. Tire size, lift amount, load in the truck. There is no static number you can post to say a K5 is always going to flop at “x” degrees.

Suspension movement takes into play also.

I’ve got a angle gauge on the dash of my truck with the camper and I’ve seen 30 degrees on a side slope and my pucker factor was on overload. So I try to not go past 25 if I can help it. Any time I’ve been tilted to the side bad like that was slow going and very deliberate movements.
 
My paranoia is getting leaned over and a tire popping off the bead.
 
This is the type I have. Have to calibrate it each time I go out. I’ll definitely get some experience in tipping my truck, and know where the limits are, or close to. Like anything else, the more you know, the more you can grow!!!. E095DC2D-6768-45C7-8089-DA70E6BB5A00.jpeg
 
Need to find one that would mark the highest mark so later on you could see what the highest number was in case you're too distracted to see it at the time.
 
Here’s the thing about rolling a truck. I have literally had my truck almost rolled over. Seriously way past what I thought the limits were. Other times I have felt perfectly safe and a blip on the throttle or touching the brakes to hard and flop. It’s weird. The limit changes
 
mrk5 said:
I confess, I've always been curious to know what kind of angles the truck has been at. That being said, knowing the angle isn't going to help too much. First, when you're in a butt puckering off-camber situation, the last thing you're going to think about doing is looking at an angle gauge. You'd almost want to put a camera on that gauge so you could review the video later.

Most of the flops I've seen, and done myself, were due to a tire dropping into a hole. It's literally like the bottom fell out from under it. It can be a pretty gentle flop, but it still happens quicker than you'd think.

If you're going slow and controlled it's pretty amazing the angle you can get. Here are a couple of good examples from a recent trail run.


At about 1:40 in the video below is another good example.

Click to expand...
That's exactly how I laid my k5 on it's side in Moab.
Hit the wrong line and my rear left tire dipped in a hole and I was leaning slowly.
I could have backed out of it if my shifter was better but hitting reverse it went to park, that was all she wrote.
I was about 45 degrees when I was teetering.

15 years earlier with a different k5 with a stiff suspension and a heavy engine, I was in a pit and trying to climb out I was at 50 degrees and it was still holding because the center of gravity was a lot lower.
I could literally touch the ground on my side. :eek1:
 
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