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Shorten a longbox frame?

79rustyk10

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Ive been wanting a shortbox for a long time and all the ones I find here are beat to **** cobbled together piles, or in OK conition with a frame off resto price tag.

Would it be easy enough to move the rear suspension forward and lob off the rest of the frame rails or are the frames different enough that this wouldnt be worth the hassle? I know it can be done, but if it gets to the point of designing an entire new rear suspesnion it doesnt make much sense.
 
im assuming your also going to shorten your bed? or are you going to buy a short bed and just shorten your frame?
 
figured on finding a short bed, the bed mounting doesnt really bother me, just that I want to deal with the least shackle angle/pinion angle, ride height BS that I have to.

Mybe im thinking too much again
 
I really should not jump in here, since my experience is not directly relatable, but it may give you some ideas.

I had a swb F150 I bought new in '79. Damn tough truck. C6, with stock 205.
I added the big bumper and the PTO winch.

Then, in '89 I wanted a new truck. Trouble was, the car makers were still recovering from the gas crisis, plus new gov. rules.
The heaviest duty 150 (1/2 ton) Ford, was a wimp compared to my old one. So, I decided to go to a 250 (3/4 ton).
But, they did not make it in a swb.

I cannot use a lwb in the woods. I need to be able to maneuver.
So, I special ordered a 250 with all the options I wanted.

Superduty cooling, snowplow option, ( I bet that one blew their minds since it was going to Fl.<G>. But, it got me the extra heavy duty front suspension).

When it came in, it went straight to a local truck customizer.
They took the lwb body off, and cut the frame in front of the back springs.

They had a swb truck sitting there with no rear body, and they just took out enough to make mine the same distance from the front to the back.

They took the rear driveshaft to a machine shop friend of mine and he shortened it to swb specs and balanced it.
The exhaust system already had an extension in it, they took it out and the ends went right back together.
I think there was a splice in the brake line, and they just rerouted the e-brake cable to allow for the slack.

The front gas tank would not work, so they swapped it for a swb front tank. Rear stayed the same.

Lastly, they put on a second hand swb rear tub. All the bolt holes lined right up, and everything fit.

In other words, the 89 Ford pickup used all the same things for both swb and lwb. They just added a section in the frame, and a longer rear shaft.

Which makes sense, that is the cheapest way to do it.

Of course, later I swapped out the BW 1365 transfer case for a NP205, added the hydraulics, massive front bumper, winch, and other stuff.

But I would not be surprised if GM did not do the same thing.
 
I shortened mine. It started out as a 74 k20 long box and then i took 20" out of the straight part of the frame directly behind the cab and put 64" springs on which put the wheel back to the stock short box location location. As best I remember a short box has a wheelbase of 117 and a long box is 131 so by removing 20 and putting a 12" longer spring (6" on either side of the center pin) in the stock hanger it put my rear tire centered in the shortbox wheel well. With the help of 52s and zero rates my front axle is ~4-5" farther forward than stock so I can't get an accurate wheelbase measurement any more. If the rain lets up i'll see if i can snap some pics later tonight.
 
On the show TRUCKS the one Stacy David used to have, they sortend a 66 c10.They cut the frame behind the cab, and took a chunk off the back. Turned out real nice! I don`t think your long box fuel tanks will fit with a short box.
 
it has a shortbox tank in it now lol. when I swapped TBI over all I could find for free was the SWB tank.
 
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