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Show me your 6.2 diesel buildups WRONG FORUM MY FAULT

450?! That\'s all?!

A magazine would be the last reference I would use concerning diesels. As an example, I remember then quoting the maximum EGTs for the diesels on the market, and they were all over the place. Most of them were just wholy inaccurate. /forums/images/graemlins/screwy.gif

That aside, I'll stick to talking about what I know - 6.2L diesels.

Let's rationalize this for a minute:
The bottom end and rotating assembly (save the pistons) on a 6.2 is identical to the bottom end and rotating assumbly on a 6.5. A 6.5, given the right fuel and air, can easily build 500-550 lb-ft, and live a long 200k-300k mile life. With that in mind, and knowing the the differences seperating the 6.2 and 6.5 are small, we can work backwards to say that a 6.2 should be able to build similar power levels without sacrificing longevity. That's on stock 21:1 compression, too. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif

However, it takes more than the bolt-on Banks kit to build those numbers. You'll need a more responsive turbo, larger exhaust, and better fueling and injectors. A CR of 18:1-19:1 is an ideal upgrade as well.

Here's a brief recipe for how a 21:1 6.2L can hit (or at least come really close) to that 500 lb-ft mark:
<ul type="square"> good running engine
75-80 mm3 of fuel from a DB2
turbo rated pop-pressure (2150 psi) and flow rate injectors
plenty of air, topping out at around 16 psi
intercooled
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Having built my engine, I can testify that these cranks are up to the task, and the four bolt main is a good 'un. Look at the links in my sig for more details on my engine build. We're in the process of building a 300+ hp electronic 6.5TD for the 96, and we're finding many of the same things we did with the 6.2L project engine - these things perform when taken care of. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

The key to evaluating what your level of expectation from a 6.2/6.5 should be is this:
Sift through all the BS on this internet, and look for the people that try out products, give quantifiable, repeatable results, and from that put together a reasonable goal for yourself. 450 lb-ft, while a high water mark for many, is by no means the high for all of us. Do you own research; but realize that asking the question, "how much power can I make," is a internal one that should guide your information quest, and not one that someone else can answer in a single post.
 
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cool thanks very much for the info. i really wish i could afford 2.5k for just a turbo alone lol then id be rich!!! /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
 
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My argument has always been that it is a great engine, just a low output motor that is just not designed to put out big power and usually when it comes up it gets compared to a 5.9 cummins and we all know what I think about them.

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Usually the only one I see comparing the 6.2 to the CTD is you. It's an apples and oranges type of comparison, same as comparing your 406 to a blown 540 Merlin.

Rene
 
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My argument has always been that it is a great engine, just a low output motor that is just not designed to put out big power and usually when it comes up it gets compared to a 5.9 cummins and we all know what I think about them.

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Usually the only one I see comparing the 6.2 to the CTD is you. It's an apples and oranges type of comparison, same as comparing your 406 to a blown 540 Merlin.

Rene

[/ QUOTE ]I definantly recommend a cummins swap instead of a 6.2 when the question "should I swap in a diesel?" comes up. I am just biased, just as you are about the 6.2's. I am not the only one that compares the 6.2 to a cummins around here. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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Hey......i thought my post got deleted. I diddnt know you guys were in here skwaking about it all this time. /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif By the way, what does this thread denote about how to build a 6.2 up?NOTHING!!! So your all wrong. /forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif Lets stick to the topic. Now, how do i make a 6.2 badass??? What heads ,etc? /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
 
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Turbo, intercooler, more fuel, huge exhaust.

Pretty much the same formula for any diesel.

Rene
 
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Now, how do i make a 6.2 badass??? What heads ,etc? /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif

[/ QUOTE ]Like I said on the phone...diesels don't have the aftermarket a V8 gas engine has, especially an early 6.2. The options on "what heads?" are stock, stock, and stock. The only thing you could do is maybe do a little porting to the stockers but I have never heard of the heads choking out a 6.2. The whole stock long block is pretty much unchangeable. The fuel and air system is where the power is made with a diesel. All the mods are going to be getting more air and fuel in. Refer to the post above for your standard diesel power mods.
 
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Now, how do i make a 6.2 badass??? What heads ,etc? /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif

[/ QUOTE ]Like I said on the phone...diesels don't have the aftermarket a V8 gas engine has, especially an early 6.2. The options on "what heads?" are stock, stock, and stock. The only thing you could do is maybe do a little porting to the stockers but I have never heard of the heads choking out a 6.2. The whole stock long block is pretty much unchangeable. The fuel and air system is where the power is made with a diesel. All the mods are going to be getting more air and fuel in. Refer to the post above for your standard diesel power mods.

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Actually stock is true but you can put some 6.5 heads on, they flow better and I believe have bigger valves.
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Really? THe more I find out about the 6.2 and 6.5 the more I hear what is the same or interchangeable. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
Are 6.5 heads a "must" to make 450+ torque from a 6.2?
 
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Really? THe more I find out about the 6.2 and 6.5 the more I hear what is the same or interchangeable. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
Are 6.5 heads a "must" to make 450+ torque from a 6.2?

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Not a must, but it helps.

I port matched my 'J' code intake and felt that helped a little. The factory casting is pretty poor IMO, at least on the intake side of things. I found the ports on the 6.2 heads were all pretty good compared to the intake gasket, but the intake manifold itself was horrible. There were areas where I removed a full 1/4". i estimate that I opened up the intake ports by 25% or more just to get them matching the gasket. That has to help air flow...

It's a relatively cheap (almost free) mod that sure can't hurt anything.

Rene
 

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