Oblin Goblin
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This question occured to me while backing down a rather steep trail. When sliding backwards down a hill to you still turn into the skid or turn in the opposite direction?
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Twiz
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You -Abort- and leep out the window, preferably on the up-hill side.
-or- correct the slide by turning the wheel in the opposite direction (try to realighn the front end with the back, so that your slideing as streight up and down the hill as possible)
Twiztid
-or- correct the slide by turning the wheel in the opposite direction (try to realighn the front end with the back, so that your slideing as streight up and down the hill as possible)
Twiztid
Well If you're sliding going backwards, down hill, it probably doesn't matter which way you turn. Reason being the front wheels having a heavier brake bias and unloaded due to the incline, are locked up. A locked wheel has no directional stability (or sense of direction) so sawing on the steering wheel will have little or no effect.
The goal would be to keep the wheels rolling to maintain control or at least to release the brakes as soon as the vehicle starts to slide to one side or the other. This is all just my opinion; feel free to disagree and refute my convoluted logic.
The goal would be to keep the wheels rolling to maintain control or at least to release the brakes as soon as the vehicle starts to slide to one side or the other. This is all just my opinion; feel free to disagree and refute my convoluted logic.
What you want to do is steer it what ever way will keep the truck from going sideways on the hill. The truck will become very unstable at this point and if you make any wrong steering or drastic manuvers your going over. You get sideways going backwards on a hill your going into a Death roll. Game over, hold on for the ride. Tree is your friend at this point. hit it and hope it stops you.
Look in my site at the scary pictures. There is a couple pics of my buds Toyota on it's roof. He lost traction uphill, stalled the engine, then the steering broke and went full lock. He never exceeded 5mph and still ended up on his lid.
The steeper the grade the more off ballance the truck will be. The brakes are biased to stop the truck going foward not back and your going to have the fronts lock and the rears not be able to hold it.
This is VERY dangerous situation. Avoid it if at all possible. Your almost better off flooring it to get the rear spinning and keep the front from locking so you can steer. The natural reaction is to hit the brakes. Unfortunatly you got so much working against you that goes against the grain of everything your have learned driving foward. It's hard to think it through and override your natural reaction quick enough to save yourself.
Even going down a hill foward you have so much weight transfer going on your fighting some of the same problems. Atleast you not going backwards. You can still lock the back wheels and have them come around. At that point you need to get rolling. I drive with both feet in my auto trucks. At the top of the hill I get on the brakes hard enough that the truck will stop. I then hold the brakes steady and gas the truck down the hill. it sounds strange but it works because it gives you more control and your not having a sudden stop of the wheels and a slide. You back off the gas and let it slow. The brakes stay a constant. You can also burp the throttle and get them rolling agian if they do lock. Saved me a couple of times. Got on some marbles going down hill. the rear started comming around and I floored it got it straight and slowed it down.
As it says on the cover of my favorite book in large friendly letters "DON'T PANIC!".
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Look in my site at the scary pictures. There is a couple pics of my buds Toyota on it's roof. He lost traction uphill, stalled the engine, then the steering broke and went full lock. He never exceeded 5mph and still ended up on his lid.
The steeper the grade the more off ballance the truck will be. The brakes are biased to stop the truck going foward not back and your going to have the fronts lock and the rears not be able to hold it.
This is VERY dangerous situation. Avoid it if at all possible. Your almost better off flooring it to get the rear spinning and keep the front from locking so you can steer. The natural reaction is to hit the brakes. Unfortunatly you got so much working against you that goes against the grain of everything your have learned driving foward. It's hard to think it through and override your natural reaction quick enough to save yourself.
Even going down a hill foward you have so much weight transfer going on your fighting some of the same problems. Atleast you not going backwards. You can still lock the back wheels and have them come around. At that point you need to get rolling. I drive with both feet in my auto trucks. At the top of the hill I get on the brakes hard enough that the truck will stop. I then hold the brakes steady and gas the truck down the hill. it sounds strange but it works because it gives you more control and your not having a sudden stop of the wheels and a slide. You back off the gas and let it slow. The brakes stay a constant. You can also burp the throttle and get them rolling agian if they do lock. Saved me a couple of times. Got on some marbles going down hill. the rear started comming around and I floored it got it straight and slowed it down.
As it says on the cover of my favorite book in large friendly letters "DON'T PANIC!".
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muddin4fun
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It's prolly best to know your K5's limits to start with, but in order to do that, it's trial and error. The best thing to do is don't panic. I've never been in a situation like that, but I would think you have better control as long as the tires are turning. Would you treat it sorta like driving on ice?
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I've got caught on a very steep hill with a couple of water tracks that were frozen...inattention on my part. It was a rookie mistake and put me in a bad spot. The truck stopped moving forward and started to slide backwards. The hill was steep and the road was narrow with a long drop-off on one side and a steep embankment on the other. My first reaction was to smoke the brakes, but all this did was cause the front end to begin swinging around. Call it dumb luck but I let off the brakes and once the tires were rolling again steered it back to straight and then started braking again. I had to repeat this 2 or 3 times until I could get off the ice and on to the gravelly part of the road. The drop-off on my side of the truck was about 200' with a bunch of rocks and a river at the bottom. Needless to say I almost needed to have the uphostery surgically removed from my ass...
Its a funny story now but quite frightening at the time.
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backlash
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<<Tree is your friend at this point. hit it and hope it stops you.>>
I know this is pretty a pretty serious thread, But that cracked me up! tree ... best friend. Hahaha
Like some of you mentioned ... I'm hear due to some fairly quick thinking and reflexes, but the man up stairs should take most of the credit. I consider myself a lucky man!
I know this is pretty a pretty serious thread, But that cracked me up! tree ... best friend. Hahaha
Like some of you mentioned ... I'm hear due to some fairly quick thinking and reflexes, but the man up stairs should take most of the credit. I consider myself a lucky man!
wayne
3/4 ton status
A tree can be your best friend, just ask my dad. He was going to work in his Toyota 4x4 and hit a patch of black ice and slid sidways into a small hill, a tree stopped it from flipping over when it caught the top of the fender and the hood. So I would have to agree with Grim that a tree can help in certain situations.
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Hahaha yeah you got it! Great set of books.
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