I think about this every time someone makes an "A slow winch is better than no winch" post or any time I see someone useing a realy slow winch. Yes, its true that no winch sucks and money is tight for a lot of ppl (me included), but I rather buy a used winch like an 8274 or HS9500 than something new and slow. I'm not out to bash anyone or start a flame war, just my $.02. BTW, my winch was used when I bought it, and I know a few others on here and in my club that have bought good used winches. A fast winch can save your bacon if you're on the hook and you start to go over. It's much easier to lay down the gas pedal when you arn't waiting for the cable to spool back in. There is also less "wait time". For steep hills and large rocks fast is the way to go. Maybe things are different in mud and sand, I don't know I never owned a winch when I lived in the flat lands.