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SM465 / doubler question

mud4me

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I am getting ready to start a tube chassis build. From searching this site it looks like alot of you are running SM465's and doublers. I want to keep my build as low as possible with a flat belly. My question is would it be beneficial to flip the 203 upside down and clock the 205 flat for clearance with the sm465 hanging down as low as is does. In stock form the 203 looks like it hangs down about the same as the 465. Anyone have any pics of their setup. Does the 465 hang lower than your oil pan, if so how much? Some pics from the side or front the front looking back would be great. Thanks guys.
 
Not exactly what you're looking for but they may help...

Edit: My 203 is in the stock position, the 205 is clocked up 2".

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Thanks for the pics. I can tell exactly where the bottom of the 465 is at in those pics. If you would have flipped the 203 upside down would have gained any clearance?

thanks again
 
Yeah, I could have gained probably about ~3" of clearance. Here's another pic of just the 203 and doubler adapter, if you look at the output shafts distance to the top and then bottom you can get an idea of what you'd save.

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if you are building a tube chassis just raise the motor up along with everything else to keep everything flat. I realize this raises the center of gravity but it certainly is the easy way to do it
 
Keeping the center of gravity as low as possible is a concern. Just raising the engine up would be a last resort type of fix, but with the unsprung weight it will have it shouldnt hurt it a whole lot. Rockwells, H1's, and 47's make for lots of weight close to the ground. If i do raise the engine a little more than normal i had planed on flipping the 203 and clocking the 205 flat and just raking the engine back more, assuming this wouldn't affect the engine. Where does the bottom of the 465 sit in relation to the engines oil pan. I have looked at a lot of buggies both in person and online builds and almost all of them run an auto. If it doesn't hang down below the oil pan i think i can make it work. Thanks for all the replies guys.
 
I'll look at mine tonight and let you know.
 
depending on where your axle is raising the engine may allow you to get the whole thing lower yes but I agree keeping everything low is good.

How far are you into the build I would like to build a rig like this someday except I am going to narrow the axles so the whole truck is not so freaking wide
 
the trans dosent hang down too low but its where the shackles are. If you get the doubler flat, moving the motor up 1" wont raise the cog too much

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I am just now getting started on the build. I had already allowed for the front rockwell to be pushed forward enough so that the front of the engine would be behind the rockwell chunk. So raising to engine wouldnt really help with that a whole lot, but it couldnt hurt :D. I have the main frame rails of the buggy done and the rest of the chassis modeled in bend tech waiting for my tube to come in from the supplier. I have spent the better part of 2 years collecting parts, looking for good deals, and storing stuff up. I have all the drivetrain except for the doubler plate. 6.0 Chevy LQ4 (just have to go pick it up) steering rockwells front and rear, SM465, 203/205, recentered H1 dbl beadlocks and 47 LTB's.
 
dleroy43
For some reason i cant view your picture. Any way you can post it in the thread?

thanks
 
sounds like alot of fun to me. I have come to the point where I would like to build a buggy and a nicer trail rider.

I looked at a couple pics I have of one of my older trucks and it looks like an inch or two would give you a true flatbelly all the way back
 
I know one pic has already been posted but here's one of mine. Fwiw, the 465's belly is even with the bottom of my (454) oil pan.

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