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So, I feel like a moron now, and, wiring question

Element

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So, as a few of you might remember, I've been here on and off, trying to sort out the problems with my Blazer. After putting damn near $600 worth of parts into it (most of which needed replaced anyway) and still not having a running vehicle, I found the distributor was completely loose - spun like a top. Bought a $30 timing light and just got in from toying with the truck.

Evidently the guy who set the timing before me didn't make sure the bracket was against the distributor before he tightened the bolt up. The bolt itself on the dizzy bracket was tight as hell, but the distributor still spun around. I loosened the bolt up, pushed the bracket into contact with the distributor, and tightened it enough so I could still spin the dist, but it was still loose. When I checked the timing, it was at least 20* advanced. Now, I'm not 100% sure if that could cause the problem I was having (truck would shut off if I was going at a lower speed and let off the gas, and eventually started just shutting off at idle), but since I set the timing back to 0* and tightened the distributor back down until it wouldn't spin, she idles so much more smoothly, sounds much better on acceleration, and miracle of miracles, she doesn't die when I drive!

Now, I realize some of you guys are probably laughing your asses off now, thinking "This damn noob spent all that money, and it was just the timing that was off!" And you'd be right. However, I have never, not once in my life, had to wrench on anything older than my '99 LS1. I found out, quite painfully and in an expensive manner, that knowledge about new engines does not always translate over into being able to successfully wrench on older engines. Lesson learned.

Anyway, on to the question I have about wiring. While I was fixing the distributor, I noticed a wire and a quick disconnect, green with a black stripe coming out of the harness directly behind the driver side valve cover, had been cut. Not too sure what that goes to...any thoughts on that? Seems every time I work on this truck I find a new cut wire somewhere :doah:
 
Is it the Oil Pressure Idiot Light hookup? My wire is green... and I leave it disconnected, since I hooked up a mechanical oil pressure gauge in place of the Oil Pressure Warning Light Sensor.
 
Could be...per the gauge that's hooked up in the truck, hot idle is about 3psi, and I haven't gotten an oil warning light yet. I'll have to see if the oil sending unit has a clipped wire on it.
 
midnight said:
Is it the Oil Pressure Idiot Light hookup? My wire is green... and I leave it disconnected, since I hooked up a mechanical oil pressure gauge in place of the Oil Pressure Warning Light Sensor.

You know it wouldnt be a bad thing to have the light hooked up also, if you still have it.Then if your not paying attention to the gauge , at least the light will warn you before its to late. ;)
 
Dafey said:
You know it wouldnt be a bad thing to have the light hooked up also, if you still have it.Then if your not paying attention to the gauge , at least the light will warn you before its to late. ;)


I monitor my gauges religiously. By the time the light comes on, it's usually already too late. :doah:
 
midnight said:
I monitor my gauges religiously. By the time the light comes on, it's usually already too late. :doah:

It was just a thought...
 
I call things like that bracket not actually clamping the dizzy a "landmine." Not leaving those laying around is a big part of what I do for a living so I'm used to looking for and expecting them on new to me vehicles.

midnight said:
I monitor my gauges religiously. By the time the light comes on, it's usually already too late. :doah:

Just a note on that. My Grandfather monitors his gauges far, far better than I do. Then he was driving his GMC motorhome NW out of the PHX area into the sun. Couldn't see the temp gauge due to the glare. The lower radiator hose had split. Couldn't see the light either. When it started to sieze, that was his first indication that there was something wrong.

Moral? As I see it it's to use lights and put them where they'll grab your attention even if driving straight into the sun.
 
ntsqd said:
I call things like that bracket not actually clamping the dizzy a "landmine." Not leaving those laying around is a big part of what I do for a living so I'm used to looking for and expecting them on new to me vehicles.



Just a note on that. My Grandfather monitors his gauges far, far better than I do. Then he was driving his GMC motorhome NW out of the PHX area into the sun. Couldn't see the temp gauge due to the glare. The lower radiator hose had split. Couldn't see the light either. When it started to sieze, that was his first indication that there was something wrong.

Moral? As I see it it's to use lights and put them where they'll grab your attention even if driving straight into the sun.


I'm not sure why my post keeps coming up. However, while I redid my whole gauge cluster with Autometer gauges, I replaced my Oil pressure Warning Light a working Oil Pressure gauge... it's kinda hard not to be able to read it even with sun glare. I dont like Warning lights anyways. Just my preference. I'll just leave it at that.


~Element, I'm sorry if my rambling isn't helping you. However you can always consult a wiring diagram and see if it may shed some light on that mystery wire.

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midnight said:
I'm not sure why my post keeps coming up. However, while I redid my whole gauge cluster with Autometer gauges, I replaced my Oil pressure Warning Light a working Oil Pressure gauge... it's kinda hard not to be able to read it even with sun glare. I dont like Warning lights anyways. Just my preference. I'll just leave it at that.


~Element, I'm sorry if my rambling isn't helping you. However you can always consult a wiring diagram and see if it may shed some light on that mystery wire.

I actually agree with you guys about warning lights, or idiot lights as I call them. I like to know where everything is, not just when there's a problem with it - if you can see it coming, half the time you can stop it from happening.

I found the other end of the wire, coming out of the harness running across the top of the firewall. Hooked it back up but haven't seen a difference in any lights, etc yet, but I haven't gotten to drive the truck a whole lot since then, either.
 
When I was running dirttrack, many moons ago, I had oil gauge and idiot light. The idiot light was a Honda cycle taillight, mounted on top of the dash. On some tracks, it would flicker in the corners, giving me a heads up. Racing on a crowded track, you don't always have time to look at gauges, but that big ole taillight was right in your face.
 
Element said:
I actually agree with you guys about warning lights, or idiot lights as I call them. I like to know where everything is, not just when there's a problem with it - if you can see it coming, half the time you can stop it from happening.

I found the other end of the wire, coming out of the harness running across the top of the firewall. Hooked it back up but haven't seen a difference in any lights, etc yet, but I haven't gotten to drive the truck a whole lot since then, either.


I forgot to mention.. Is it a Hot wire? As in does it have 12V constant (ign off) or 12V with IGN on? If it does have a voltage reading, it does not belong to the Oil pressure Warning light sensor.

If the wire has no voltage reading, with and without the key on IGN, then it could be part of a ground circuit for possibly the Oil pressure Warning light sensor.


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When there very little oil pressure, somewhere around like 5psi of oil, the sensor will keep the Oil pressure warning light circuit closed, thus keeping the light on. When the oil pressure sensor stays closed it will operate as the ground to the warning light.

The Oil Pressure light SHOULD ALWAYS come on when the key is set to IGN (with the engine OFF).

If the Oil Warning Light does NOT come on then:

- Your engine is running with more than 5psi Oil (hopefully)
- Your Oil pressure Warning light sensor could faulty
- Your Oil Pressure Warning light Bulb could be faulty
- Or there is a mix up in the 2 wires that go to the light bulb, either the 12v IGN is not hooked up or the sensor (ground) wire that is actuated by the Oil pressure switch is not hooked up. (or both wires could not be hooked up). That IGN 12v to the idiot light could be fused, so checking the fuse panel fuses wouldn't hurt.

Those thoughts just came to mind after reading your post. Just trying to help you out element. I don't know about you, but electrical issues or worries bug the hell out of me.

The last thing I would ever want is an electrical fire. :angry1:
 
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I'll have to borrow a multimeter and check this weekend - not sure if it's hot or not. I do know there's no low oil warning light with the ignition at run, so there's an issue somewhere.
 
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