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So... What kind of tools / spare parts did you guys need that you didn't have?

Russell

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There was a fun game that was going on most of the week that was called "stump the Canadian" when it came to tools and spare parts. I think I only lost 2 or 3 times the whole week :haha:

Anyways, what kind of things did you guys need this week that you would carry normally from here on in?

Here is my list:

- 14 bolt hub socket
- Plastic splints for broken bones, disinfectant, chemical ice packs and a neck brace
- Small grease gun
 
Well Friday afternoon it was a 1/2" ratchet and 7/8" socket with about 9" worth of extension. Someone in the group had these and all was good.

After that I decided to remember to put a tool bag in the buggy instead of letting it hang out in the tow rig.

Saturday morning it was some way to air up a tire. ONe of the guys had a small air compressor in the group.

So for Saturday afternoon I put the CO2 tank and air hose in.

By Sunday it seemed i had everything I needed just in time to come home and unload it all.
 
this is the reason why eventually i will have that big of list with me..

tools - sockets in 3/8 of all sizes
wrenches in all sizes
d60 front and 14b rear hub sockets
spare dshafts
spare axle shafts
high lift
alternator
starter
water pump
belts
spool of wire
wire connectors (yes ryoken i will leave the wire nuts for home use!!!! :whistle:)
all fluids
oil filter
fullsize spare - detroited front and back so needed...
onboard air
possible onboard welder
i know the list will grow.. but this is why i have a pickup and will eventually go crew cab and bobbed custom bed......
 
RootBreaker said:
this is the reason why eventually i will have that big of list with me..

tools - sockets in 3/8 of all sizes
wrenches in all sizes
d60 front and 14b rear hub sockets
spare dshafts
spare axle shafts
high lift
alternator
starter
water pump
belts
spool of wire
wire connectors (yes ryoken i will leave the wire nuts for home use!!!! :whistle:)
all fluids
oil filter
fullsize spare - detroited front and back so needed...
onboard air
possible onboard welder
i know the list will grow.. but this is why i have a pickup and will eventually go crew cab and bobbed custom bed......
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I will not discount this list as what you should have, you by no means need all that on the trail.
Only carry the wrenches you need to work on your stuff. If you don't have an 11/16" headed bolt or nut why carry that wrench and socket, it's just weight and space that can be better used.

Carry jumper cables and if the ALT fries just plan on using another vehicle to charge your battery to get you off the trail, waterpump is great to have but you can get around that with either a tow or just driving in short spurts.
Wire connectors should be just wire nuts and a small handfull of blades etc. You can fix alot with just wire nuts.

Trail repairs are quick and easy, their not meant to be a complete and final fix just something that will get you to camp, trailer, etc. You can do the actual fix in the comfort of your own shop not on the trail.

Carry field fix stuff in the rig and have a good assortment of parts else where. I think this is how a lot of guys get into trouble, they carry 800lbs worth of tools and spares on the trail and they always need them. Drop that 800lbs and they all of the sudden don't need any of that stuff cause the rig is lighter and works better.
 
miniwally said:
Drop that 800lbs and they all of the sudden don't need any of that stuff cause the rig is lighter and works better.
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This is pretty much exactly what I did this year and holy crap what a huge difference it makes. I put all my spares and extra tools in my tow rig and narrowed my trail spares and tools down to one 80ish pound tool bag.
 
I don't actually carry any spare parts with me at all.

I was paring my tool kit down but went a bit too far.

I will have a decent selection of wrenches ( including a 5/32).

I am trying to pare it down to pretty much what I would need to get out. Not to continue the trail.

It is nice to be prepared but if you can loose even 400 lbs it will make your rig less susceptible to breaking.

My only actual trail break ( alternator was just worn out) was because I didn't double check everything.

So new item to add to the tow rig tool bag is something to lie on in the parking lot to double check everything underneath stuff
 
Another thing that we have looked at is trying to use the same parts throughout the rig. Such as my psc ram and steering tie rod all use 3/4 heims, with 5/8 bore, rht. Using the same u joints in the front and rear drivelines. Use the same size bolt for all leaf spring pins. Try to use the same size bolts through out. Just keeps the amount of spare parts down that can fix multiple things. Like the carrying extra water that is also coolant deal.
 
blazinzuk said:
So new item to add to the tow rig tool bag is something to lie on in the parking lot to double check everything underneath stuff
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Three foot wide eight foot long carpet scrap. Thank me later, I like Corona or better yet Jack Daniels.
 
Since I'm generally a trail leader, I'm going to start carrying a length of chain to use for limping out a steering box trying to separate from the frame. And bolts to go with it. I'm glad we were able to wrangle them up Saturday courtesy of the new guy from New Mexico and Scotty's misc bolt collection.
 
AND THE WINNER IS.....

make sure the rig is all in good shape before you head out to the trail and your chances of needing tools are way lower. Past that all the above is good to pay attention to.

I have what I call my "baja bag" that is a small toolbag with all the hose clamp, duct tape, bailing wire, leatherman, wire nut type stuff in it and it's always easy to get to. It fixes most of the stuff we mess with and rides in just about everything I ride in.
 
miniwally said:
I will not discount this list as what you should have, you by no means need all that on the trail.
Only carry the wrenches you need to work on your stuff. If you don't have an 11/16" headed bolt or nut why carry that wrench and socket, it's just weight and space that can be better used.
i agree.. on my 78.. i can take it mostly apart with a 5/8 and 9/16.... add a 7/16 and 1/2" and it is really apart..

what you can do is get the double ended box wrenches.. i have a 1/2" / 9/16" that i use the MOST.. so to find one in a 3/8 - 7/16 and 5/8-11/16 = what 4 maybe 5 wrenches.. i know i threw it out there vaguely.. or hell even a zipup case that i have.. it is a small pack with all sockets in 1/4 and 3/8 size... plus flat and philips screwdrivers

Carry jumper cables and if the ALT fries just plan on using another vehicle to charge your battery to get you off the trail, waterpump is great to have but you can get around that with either a tow or just driving in short spurts.
Wire connectors should be just wire nuts and a small handfull of blades etc. You can fix alot with just wire nuts.
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i have 4 batteries.. 2x 1000ca duralast golds and 2 x 8d dump truck batteries.. dont think i have a problem there...


Trail repairs are quick and easy, their not meant to be a complete and final fix just something that will get you to camp, trailer, etc. You can do the actual fix in the comfort of your own shop not on the trail.
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my goal is to drive it to the place and back home.. so it needs alot... but that was my plan before i bought a silverado crew cab.. so maybe a trailer is in order... :whistle:

Carry field fix stuff in the rig and have a good assortment of parts else where. I think this is how a lot of guys get into trouble, they carry 800lbs worth of tools and spares on the trail and they always need them. Drop that 800lbs and they all of the sudden don't need any of that stuff cause the rig is lighter and works better.
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yeah like dropping my truck from 6100lbs currently to 5200 would really do much of a difference??? maybe it would.. but i dont think what i would carry extra would add up to 800lbs... :dunno:

note: by no means are my quoted replies meant in a provoking way... :thumb:
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Well im an overprepared person..
My truck normally looks like this if not with more stuff. I have this fear of something breaking. When we go wheeling I bring all my stuff cuz I know nobody else will have jack crap and I dont feel like having to drive somewhere to get something because everyone else was unprepared.

so...

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Fire Extinguisher UP FRONT and easy access
Hobart 140, that stays at the campground as it does no good in the truck, but have used it a few times welding up stuff at the campground.
Dewalt bag-18V: Sawzall, Drill, Impact, snake light, 2 batteries, 2 chargers, 500w power inverter.
Jack, jackstands
trouble light, extension cords
Fluids, oil, tranny fluid, brake fluid etc..
Spray cans- Brake clean, wd40, penetrating oil etc..
4 way tire iron
Vaccuum pump gauge kit
Timing light
wood block, and piece of wood to place jack on in sand,
socket set, 1/4" 3/8" and 1/2" drive
wrench set standard and metric
Extra wheel bearings, and locking hubs (my old set)
lots of differnt wire, solderless terminal set, wire cutter/crimp tools
and toolbox full of every random tool you could think of

I know theirs more....:whistle: lol.

And I could care less about the extra weight, the 408 doesnt seem to mind either way :thumb:
 
I have not had the tool bags out for my truck yet. Knock on wood smilie here. For others yes. I took the tools and stuff out once. The balance front to back was off. The back raised 2 inches. Bounced all over.

Dueling. I really hope you strap that stuff down. A welder to the back of the head would hurt.
 
I said above the welder stays at the campground. But yah I wanna put some tie down locations in the back. Also my scuba tank with regulator will be replacing the sub box, and be strapped down for an oba system. I'm hoping to find somewhere else to mount subs.
 
What Brandon said is so true, there is a difference to getting it off the trail and fixing it on the trail. You just need to get it off the trail. You can fix it at the hotel/ campground. if its some kind of a fluke, aka oil filter, someone, aka The Watsons, can run back into town and get you a new one. :woot:

Really though you can carry a spare anything and everything and still not have what you need.
 
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