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So, you are starting a VERY steep decent and your engine dies. How to stop?

Gear driven huh? Thats more reliable than a v-belt I guess!.And I explained how I'd stop a truck with an aoutomatic tranny ,but the post said "and your engine dies"----guess I'd better get my glasses upgraded! /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif
Maybe I'd put it in"Park"--use the E brake--or just jump out! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
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got NO brakes OR power steering--and wet pants! /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif

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Nonsense. You simply have manual brakes and manual steering. You can stop just fine.

Vehicles were available a long time without either......
 
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got NO brakes OR power steering--and wet pants! /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif

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Nonsense. You simply have manual brakes and manual steering. You can stop just fine.

Vehicles were available a long time without either......

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Sure you have brakes still, but on rigs as heavy as ours with big tires it is a challenge to say the least. Just don't take your foot off for one second haha.
 
There is a big difference between manual brakes,and power brakes that no longer have the booster working--I nearly crashed my 79 C10 several times when the booster failed,I stood right up out of the seat with all my 170lbs on it,it felt like it went faster instead of slowing down!I can imagine the hydroboost system is probably worse than the vaccumm system when the power assist is lost--most trucks that have that weigh at least 6000 lbs.
Same goes for steering,manual steering is difficult,but power steering with no pump or belt is nearly impossible to turn,especially at slower speeds. I realize it is still possible to steer and stop without the power assist,but the question is,can you do it in time,if at all?? /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 
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NV4500 is more useful to me than a doubler...and would cost me about the same $$.

As for stalling on steep hills, get FI or diesel, then all you have to worry about is losing oil pressure.

Rene

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whats one of thes run??? the email link wont work for me /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif just a ball park?
 
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got NO brakes OR power steering--and wet pants! /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif

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Nonsense. You simply have manual brakes and manual steering. You can stop just fine.

Vehicles were available a long time without either......

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Sure you have brakes still, but on rigs as heavy as ours with big tires it is a challenge to say the least. Just don't take your foot off for one second haha.

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I agree.

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There is a big difference between manual brakes,and power brakes that no longer have the booster working--I nearly crashed my 79 C10 several times when the booster failed,I stood right up out of the seat with all my 170lbs on it,it felt like it went faster instead of slowing down!I can imagine the hydroboost system is probably worse than the vaccumm system when the power assist is lost--most trucks that have that weigh at least 6000 lbs.
Same goes for steering,manual steering is difficult,but power steering with no pump or belt is nearly impossible to turn,especially at slower speeds. I realize it is still possible to steer and stop without the power assist,but the question is,can you do it in time,if at all??

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I completely disagree. You can still stop just fine. You will need quite a bit more pedal effort but I drove my truck for months with a bad brake booster

Adding the new booster made it much easier to stop but the stopping performance didn't change much at all.

Manual brakes ARE different than power with a leaky vauum cylinder as is steering, however, your rig can and will stop and steer without power assist, I know for a fact.

I have driven several miles with no belt on my power steering pump as well, including on the highway. Definitely more steering effort with the 38.5x16 TSLs but really not unbearable....
 
under ideal conditions you should be able to stop or steer a rig that the motor has died in /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif but going down a hill with a automatic tranny and bigger tires and vaccume boost brakes you only got about two or three pumps on the brake after the motor stalls before the peddle goes rock hard and you got a hell of a time stopping. /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif

on thing that might help is a lock up tork converter or something i don't know exactly how they work or if they work when the motor is off but might be something to look into maby it'll help normal down hill decent /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
does anybody else know more about them? /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

i run a standard so us standard guys can always keep the motor turning when decending down hill giving us a little more advantage /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
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under ideal conditions you should be able to stop or steer a rig that the motor has died in /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif but going down a hill with a automatic tranny and bigger tires and vaccume boost brakes you only got about two or three pumps on the brake after the motor stalls before the peddle goes rock hard and you got a hell of a time stopping. /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif

on thing that might help is a lock up tork converter or something i don't know exactly how they work or if they work when the motor is off but might be something to look into maby it'll help normal down hill decent /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
does anybody else know more about them? /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

i run a standard so us standard guys can always keep the motor turning when decending down hill giving us a little more advantage /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
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