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Sorry FURD question

darkshadow said:
ir just like turning the key,

its your starter then, tap the starter and selinoude and try it some more, if not you might have to pull it.
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I just tap the starter and solenoid, then try to start it again? Where is the started on a ford... passenger side? Can I tap it from above, or do I have to crawl through the snow?

Thanks
 
Hopefully today I will get out there and try to tap the starter then. My whole day is ruined because i'm in a bad moood :(
 
Take the bolt all the way off the positive battery cable terminal end. Then you can spread it apart and it WILL come off. Then go take the battery out of the blazer [ hopefully it has both side posts and top posts], put it in the ford and you are all set. It shouldn't take you more than an hour, which is a lot quicker than waiting for the other battery to charge. It might be any good either.
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fatbob said:
Take the bolt all the way off the positive battery cable terminal end. Then you can spread it apart and it WILL come off. Then go take the battery out of the blazer [ hopefully it has both side posts and top posts], put it in the ford and you are all set. It shouldn't take you more than an hour, which is a lot quicker than waiting for the other battery to charge. It might be any good either.
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I kind of thought of that... but it comes back to the positive post... the square head bolt that is in the won't move, it just bends the post making the plastic around it bend a bit. :(:confused:
 
So quit worring about damaging a bad battery:dunno: Put some vicegrips on the square side and a socket with a extention on the nut. Just think how much better you'll feel when you get this unstuck. Your stuck problem is snowballing on you. Stuck blazer---start ford----------stuck comealong. When you get the ford started it can solve the other problems.................Unless you get the ford stuck too.:blush:
 
OK. I was asking if you had jumper cables because you hadn't said that you tried to jump start the truck last week. Anyway, the terminal pullers are to get the positive terminal off the battery that is in the ford now so you can put a known good battery in it's place. Also, you should clean or better yet replace that positive cable, and the ends from the other wires that attach to it. They look pretty corroded. You should take care of this first before proceeding with further diagnosis. Also, the solenoid you have can't be jumped with a screwdriver. What you will need to do is connect a small piece of wire (jumper wire)from where the grey wire connects on the solenoid (toward the front of the vehicle) to where the tiny red wire (toward the drivers side of the vehicle)is connected to the solenoid. Pull off the small red wire so you can touch your jumper wire to the copper stud that is under the small red wire. The solenoid should click, and the starter should crank the engine over. If the solenoid doesn't click, then either there is no voltage at the grey wire from the battery, or the solenoid is bad. If it does click and the starter doesn't turn, then you need to check the starter. Have someone hold the key in the crank position while you tap the starter with a hammer. I believe it is on the pass. side if you have a 5.0 or 5.8 If the starter still doesn't turn either the starter is bad, or there is no voltage at the starter. If it does turn, there is a bad spot in the starter and it should be replaced. I hope this helps and I didn't confuse you.
 
Hey,
Thats a lot of info... So I will take a bit at a time...
When you say I have to touch a wire to the 2 solenoid terminals... can it just be 16 or 14 guage wire? It sounds pretty straight forward... but knowing my I probably will have more trouble...
I will tap on the starter too, to see if it's just frozen from sitting for so long.

When you said I have to replace all the ends for the cables, do I have to do that right now, or can I see if the starter and the solenoid is working? It's sunday so everything is closed. And I don't really know what I need.

Thanks
 
It's very low amperage, so you can use 14 or 16 gauge with no prob. Just don't touch the front terminal (where the grey wire is) to the back terminal (can't be seen in your photo so I don't know what color it is) with a small wire. It will melt in your hand. You don't have to replace all of those today, but do make sure they are clean with a wire brush or something.

I know I wrote alot, but I was trying to give you a step by step with most possible problems so you won't have to keep going out there and then coming back in to see the next step.
My guess as to the problem, in most likely order is,
bad battery and poor/dirty connections
or
bad starter
or
bad solenoid
Don't just go changing parts, starter or solenoid, if you aren't sure that they are bad. I reccommended changing the battery cables, and the terminal lugs as a reliability thing, and it is real easy and cheap. I see alot of probs. in the shop from corroded/poor connections.
Good luck!
 
also a screwdriver works to jump the 2 posts. i used to always have to do this, my colum switch was broken.

also, dont tap to hard on the starter, it realy isnt good for them, and can alot of times make it worse by breaking a armetur or magnet inside.
 
88sub4x4 said:
It's very low amperage, so you can use 14 or 16 gauge with no prob. Just don't touch the front terminal (where the grey wire is) to the back terminal (can't be seen in your photo so I don't know what color it is) with a small wire. It will melt in your hand. You don't have to replace all of those today, but do make sure they are clean with a wire brush or something.

I know I wrote alot, but I was trying to give you a step by step with most possible problems so you won't have to keep going out there and then coming back in to see the next step.
My guess as to the problem, in most likely order is,
bad battery and poor/dirty connections
or
bad starter
or
bad solenoid
Don't just go changing parts, starter or solenoid, if you aren't sure that they are bad. I reccommended changing the battery cables, and the terminal lugs as a reliability thing, and it is real easy and cheap. I see alot of probs. in the shop from corroded/poor connections.
Good luck!
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Sorry if I was rude by saying you wrote a lot... I just saw that I have to replace more things and I went crazy. Sorry. BUT, thanks for the help!
I tapped on the starter about 10 times and tried starting it, but nothing happened. Tomorrow, or sometime next week I will try to test the solenoid. IF the starter is dead, how hard is it to replace? My dad and I replaced the starter on the blazer last winter... I think it's 3 wires and 4 bolts then it's done? Is there anything special I ave to do? What about the solenoid, if its dead can I get it at a place like Candian tire (simular to home depot in a way, but has auto parts, gardening stuff, and a lot more) and how much am I looking at spending on the solenoid? I know there is a core charge on the starter that will save me a few bucks, but the starter will probably be around the 130 range.
HOPEFULLY it's just the battery like your saying. Next week I will pick up the parts to clean up/fix the battery ends then try again. I will also charge my spare battery tomorow to try that. I might also use the Jimmy battery, but I know thats not the best one either.
I reccommended changing the battery cables, and the terminal lugs as a reliability thing, and it is real easy and cheap. I see alot of probs. in the shop from corroded/poor connections.
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I am crossing my fingers that the connectors are just dirty, m,aking it so it won't stop.

t's very low amperage, so you can use 14 or 16 gauge with no prob. Just don't touch the front terminal (where the grey wire is) to the back terminal (can't be seen in your photo so I don't know what color it is) with a small wire. It will melt in your hand.
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Okay good, I don't have a lot of wire laying around so thats good that I can use that.
I will go take a photo of the back in a few minutes so you can tell me what ones (just so I don't mess anything up when I use the wire to test the soldenoid)
Thanks SO much! Thats great:)
 
ok, take off the little wire on the front of it. then connect that small post to the front large terminal, either with a wire, or a screwdriver. it might spark, but should crank over. if it doesnt crank, then it could be batt, starter, or a bad wire.

also, to replace a ford starter, it is 2 bolts and 1 wire. nice and easy.
 
Okay great. I will try that tuesday or wednesday... if it does spark, should I take the wire off? Or will it be okay?
Thanks
 
the little wire is just a power wire from your key. when you turn your key to start, it sends power to the post, engauging the silinoid. so if u take a wire and go from + on the batt to that little post, it should send power then the silinoid. if the key is on, and you do this, it will start, well, should start. if the key is off, all it will do is crank over the motor. the one nice thing ford did, makes it easy for comp tests and all that.
 
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