mudbuggy
1/2 ton status
I bought an 89 bourbon for $25. I now am seeing why it was dirt cheap. I have never played with GM toys before so I was wondering how do I adjust the speedometer to current tire size (33x12.50x15)?
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speedometer adjustment
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Wow $25 and it drives? No matter how bad it is you could always just drive it to the scrap yard and make money on the deal.
It should still have a mechanical speedometer so I think you'd have to buy an adapter to get the right ratio. Maybe someone who has done it will post up, I just guess at my speed while driving.
It should still have a mechanical speedometer so I think you'd have to buy an adapter to get the right ratio. Maybe someone who has done it will post up, I just guess at my speed while driving.
DeviousK5
1/2 ton status
89 should be VSS no cable IIRC. If it was cable its a fairly simple math calculation after you know what the speedo is reading vs how fast you are going, but i was still thinking its got a VSS .
mudbuggy
1/2 ton status
It's a bitch figuring mpg with it off.
What's your gear ratio?
Dam! That truck was only 25$$??? you done good......
I'll give ya 50$!!
I'll give ya 50$!!
mudbuggy
1/2 ton status
I guess stock feels like it up on the flat top
$50.00 - Hell I'd loose money on that deal, the tank is full!
$50.00 - Hell I'd loose money on that deal, the tank is full!
Tip: Don't ever calculate your MPG on a burb.
And good work on the truck, $25? REally? buy it from a crackhead?
Those rims/tires are worth $300+ easy alone. Good buy!
KansasTwister
1/2 ton status
Dam! That truck was only 25$$??? you done good......
I'll give ya 50$!!
$51
Should be a mechanical speedo, and an np241 tcase if its not a 205. As stated, your rear gear and tire size calc it in, i would consider taking it to a tranny shop and seeing if they could calc the right gear in for you, and either have them, or yourself, instal it.
there were several ratio's available....
do you still have the RPO code in the glove box? One of those is a code for the ratio...
rpo listing
do you still have the RPO code in the glove box? One of those is a code for the ratio...
rpo listing
mudbuggy
1/2 ton status
codes
Yes I see GT4 and a G80. 3.73 , limited slip. What,s the 5+1 mean in the code?
Yes I see GT4 and a G80. 3.73 , limited slip. What,s the 5+1 mean in the code?
Boys, Boys......
Why are you worried about speedometer accuracy in 2010?
First of all, the only time you worry about how fast you are going is when you see a cop.
Second, check out E-bay, pawn shops, heck flea markets.
A $20 second hand GPS will beat the best speedometer accuracy ever made, and give you trip odometer functions also.
I found 3 Garmin GPS-Vs on E-bay, with mounts, and have one in each vehicle.
Averaged about $30 per unit.
These even have fair map functions.
My car has one of the worst speedometer displays ever. The numbers go from one decade to the next in the space of a 1/4 inch, and the needle is 1/8 inch wide.
And it is off.
I never use it anymore, just the GPS.
Just get one with a pretty good speed display, and you are set.
J.
Why are you worried about speedometer accuracy in 2010?
First of all, the only time you worry about how fast you are going is when you see a cop.
Second, check out E-bay, pawn shops, heck flea markets.
A $20 second hand GPS will beat the best speedometer accuracy ever made, and give you trip odometer functions also.
I found 3 Garmin GPS-Vs on E-bay, with mounts, and have one in each vehicle.
Averaged about $30 per unit.
These even have fair map functions.
My car has one of the worst speedometer displays ever. The numbers go from one decade to the next in the space of a 1/4 inch, and the needle is 1/8 inch wide.
And it is off.
I never use it anymore, just the GPS.
Just get one with a pretty good speed display, and you are set.
J.
I see your point, but there is something to be said for having an accurate speedo. Techincally i think its a legal requriement, but that aside, i put a lot of weight in my truck working as well or better than it did from the factory.
GPS is great, but i rarely have my GPS out in day to day driving, when i like to know how fast i'm going.
Bought the stuff needed to alter my (electronic) speedo, only to run a gps on it, and verify that is was in fact correct with 33's. Must have been a little off from teh factory.
You just need to change the driven speedometer gear. Look for the speedo cable going into the transfer case. There is one bolt that holds the little gear housing in. Remove bolt and pull, catch fluid. One of the online gear calculators can tell you how to get the right gear, but it's easy. Divide your stock tire size (31?) by the current tire size (33). Multiply this ratio by the number of teeth on that driven gear. The closest integer is the number of teeth you need. They are color coded, so color of the plastic tells you the tooth count.
Check out your local transmission shops as they may stock these gears. One near me has a huge box full of used ones and they let you dig through and pay like $2 each. If no luck, buy online. Don't buy at the dealer or the gear will cost more than your truck :-)
It's not a bad idea to confirm your gear ratio by counting tire and driveshaft revolutions before going through the speedo gear change. As 22 years have gone by, somebody may have swapped some parts already.
Check out your local transmission shops as they may stock these gears. One near me has a huge box full of used ones and they let you dig through and pay like $2 each. If no luck, buy online. Don't buy at the dealer or the gear will cost more than your truck :-)
It's not a bad idea to confirm your gear ratio by counting tire and driveshaft revolutions before going through the speedo gear change. As 22 years have gone by, somebody may have swapped some parts already.
mudbuggy
1/2 ton status
I would rather not have all of my electronics in the burb every single day. I like the idea of not having to roll the windows up to go into the gas station to get a can of pepsi, then come out and roll them back down. All it would take is one crackhead and me not within shooting sight of the truck and there goes my electronics.
Thank you for the kind words of encouragement of the purchase of the truck, I am now at the computer at home so I don't have to type on the blackberry. I am not new to working on old toys, have be doing it since I got out of the service.
The story behind Vic.
My brother lives 5 miles away from me in the middle of nowhere, in hancock county. When I go out to work on the charger, I drive by a field that had Vic right in the middle of it. I stopped a few times and left a note on it 'if for sale call me' left my number, but never got a call. I have been driving by this field for the last 3 years with Vic sitting in it. A couple of weeks ago I was running out to get the numbers off of the rear end and I saw a tractor pulling a disc turning into the field, well I thought here's my chance. I greeted him, commented on the weather, and the huge amount of rain we have had lately. We talked about nothing for a good 30 minutes. Then I changed the subject to Vic, he replied that he was tired of driving around the damn thing I wish that person that keeps leaving notes on the truck would just write it on the windshield, by the time I get out here, the rain makes the phone number illegible. I told him that I was leaving the note and he said that if I can get it out of here by Saturday (It was Thursday when we talked) then I could have it for $25.00. I thought well here's your chance dumbass get the money out. I got the money out alright, ripped the pocket trying to get my wallet out! He left and came back about 20 minutes later and reminded me that he wanted it out of here by Saturday. If its here when he comes out here he's gonna call the sheriff on me. I said no problem and headed out to get the numbers of of the rear end off of the General Lee. Friday I left work and went to the license branch then went home and packed up my field gear in the ramcharger to get Vic out of there then waited for my wife to get home. She finally showed up and we went out to work on Vic, and of course she was bitching all the way (thank god it was a short ride). Pulled out in the field and backed up in front of Vic, then I thought ok genius, you got a $25.00 truck are you getting tools or a chain out. See Murphy has alway had it out for me so I thought what the hell, she going to bitch anyways, so I'll just stoke the fire even more. I pulled the tools. Started by opening all of the doors and the hood, pulled off the air cleaner which was on upside down. Shot water up the tail pipe to clear any obstructions ( mice nest or snakes), put the spare battery in and bolted it down, grabbed the mac hot box and hooked it to the battery. Checked the fluids, then got the keys and saw what would light up. Checked all of the lights, and hit the key. Four cranks later and it was running on it's own! put the plate on it and drove to the gas station to fill it up. 28 gallons and $75 later I drove it home, then drove it to work the next day. NO ****! Cleaned it out all of the big **** at the dumpster, replaced the condenser in front of the radiator, charged the ac, replaced the air filter, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, fixed the vacuum leaks from the intake to the vacuum ball and the cruise control, cleaned up the rims, and shot black magic on the tires.
It does have little **** that needs repaired, I'm sure that the fuel pump is going, after 3 years sitting, but also you can feel it surge at idle. You know what I mean, sitting in traffic a mile deep and everybody in front of you is flooring it to get to the red light! That's when you can feel it, it's not major, but for it sitting for so long then being drivin every day, I'm positive that the orings and seals are dried out and brittle
The ac does have a leak, shot a quarter oz of dye in and didn't see anything under the hood, in the cab, lines running back or under the covers in the back. I think I'll just recharge it again and add a couple ozs of dye this time. I should find it, but damn that means I got to get 9 more cans of freon again.
Had the oil changed to 15w40, it's got a knock when it starts, not back or for long, and blue smoke at start, but not bad, got a can of seafoam and dumped that in the oil, and tbi cleaner in the tank. I think I want a big ass motor, lord knows there's more then enough room for it under the hood!
It has a slight transmission leak, let it sit over a weekend and drove other trucks, went out monday morning, started it up and pulled it up, just enough on the ground to see a leak, not a puddle. Probably the output seal got dry (like the fuel pump) and brittle
The power door locks work on all but the drivers door, and the key doesn't unlock the driver's door either. The barn doors, when left unlock, want to not open but loosen to the point of bouncing around. Unplugged the power lock module and locked the doors by key. Might just take the power lock module out of the barn door and put it in the driver's door, then take the bad module and get 5 replacements.
Don't know if the 4x4 works and it should, I have shifted it to low, hit the gas and ripped the rear tires loose. I thought great that's why it was so cheap, the front axle is torn up. Then I got out and looked, manual hubs. dumbass! Haven't taken it to the tree farm yet, just to damn hot to be in the middle of the woods, and I don't think I have to worry about any snow for the next month or so. I will play the next time I go to the cabin, got 100 acres of trees in Brown county.
Power windows yea there all junk. Took me 3 hours of screwing around trying to get the bolts out before I said the hell with it and got the die grinder out. Did replace the front two motors, think I need to do the regulator on the passenger side.
Cigarette lighter blows a fuse any time the ashtray is put in, so I pulled the wire off of the back and ran a hot wire to the front sunglasses holder thingy overhead and set up the radar detector on the driver's visor. Still need to put an auxillary port on the floor of the front center section for electronics and another behind the center console for the kids electronics.
I definately need to find a FSM (factory service manual) for Vic. Would like to beable to look at blown up pictures to get a better idea of the lay of the land.
I think it's got a 1" body lift on it, but the fenders have not been cut. 33" fit, which suprised the hell out of me. Still needs a 38 or 40 but I think I'll keep the beadlocks if I can find a spare rim. Need to fabricate a bumper mount spare tire carrier, made one for the ramcharger, damn I hate lifting a 33, there no way I lifting a 38 or 40, I think I have a little dc winch at work. Look out I've got a project!
First things first I need to get the speedo correct. At 60mph it reads 50. Figure I'm getting 15mpg, I'm going to and from work for 10 days on one tank of fuel, 19.5 miles one way.
I am going to look into the codes from the glove box door and see what turns up
Thank you for the kind words of encouragement of the purchase of the truck, I am now at the computer at home so I don't have to type on the blackberry. I am not new to working on old toys, have be doing it since I got out of the service.
The story behind Vic.
My brother lives 5 miles away from me in the middle of nowhere, in hancock county. When I go out to work on the charger, I drive by a field that had Vic right in the middle of it. I stopped a few times and left a note on it 'if for sale call me' left my number, but never got a call. I have been driving by this field for the last 3 years with Vic sitting in it. A couple of weeks ago I was running out to get the numbers off of the rear end and I saw a tractor pulling a disc turning into the field, well I thought here's my chance. I greeted him, commented on the weather, and the huge amount of rain we have had lately. We talked about nothing for a good 30 minutes. Then I changed the subject to Vic, he replied that he was tired of driving around the damn thing I wish that person that keeps leaving notes on the truck would just write it on the windshield, by the time I get out here, the rain makes the phone number illegible. I told him that I was leaving the note and he said that if I can get it out of here by Saturday (It was Thursday when we talked) then I could have it for $25.00. I thought well here's your chance dumbass get the money out. I got the money out alright, ripped the pocket trying to get my wallet out! He left and came back about 20 minutes later and reminded me that he wanted it out of here by Saturday. If its here when he comes out here he's gonna call the sheriff on me. I said no problem and headed out to get the numbers of of the rear end off of the General Lee. Friday I left work and went to the license branch then went home and packed up my field gear in the ramcharger to get Vic out of there then waited for my wife to get home. She finally showed up and we went out to work on Vic, and of course she was bitching all the way (thank god it was a short ride). Pulled out in the field and backed up in front of Vic, then I thought ok genius, you got a $25.00 truck are you getting tools or a chain out. See Murphy has alway had it out for me so I thought what the hell, she going to bitch anyways, so I'll just stoke the fire even more. I pulled the tools. Started by opening all of the doors and the hood, pulled off the air cleaner which was on upside down. Shot water up the tail pipe to clear any obstructions ( mice nest or snakes), put the spare battery in and bolted it down, grabbed the mac hot box and hooked it to the battery. Checked the fluids, then got the keys and saw what would light up. Checked all of the lights, and hit the key. Four cranks later and it was running on it's own! put the plate on it and drove to the gas station to fill it up. 28 gallons and $75 later I drove it home, then drove it to work the next day. NO ****! Cleaned it out all of the big **** at the dumpster, replaced the condenser in front of the radiator, charged the ac, replaced the air filter, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, fixed the vacuum leaks from the intake to the vacuum ball and the cruise control, cleaned up the rims, and shot black magic on the tires.
It does have little **** that needs repaired, I'm sure that the fuel pump is going, after 3 years sitting, but also you can feel it surge at idle. You know what I mean, sitting in traffic a mile deep and everybody in front of you is flooring it to get to the red light! That's when you can feel it, it's not major, but for it sitting for so long then being drivin every day, I'm positive that the orings and seals are dried out and brittle
The ac does have a leak, shot a quarter oz of dye in and didn't see anything under the hood, in the cab, lines running back or under the covers in the back. I think I'll just recharge it again and add a couple ozs of dye this time. I should find it, but damn that means I got to get 9 more cans of freon again.
Had the oil changed to 15w40, it's got a knock when it starts, not back or for long, and blue smoke at start, but not bad, got a can of seafoam and dumped that in the oil, and tbi cleaner in the tank. I think I want a big ass motor, lord knows there's more then enough room for it under the hood!
It has a slight transmission leak, let it sit over a weekend and drove other trucks, went out monday morning, started it up and pulled it up, just enough on the ground to see a leak, not a puddle. Probably the output seal got dry (like the fuel pump) and brittle
The power door locks work on all but the drivers door, and the key doesn't unlock the driver's door either. The barn doors, when left unlock, want to not open but loosen to the point of bouncing around. Unplugged the power lock module and locked the doors by key. Might just take the power lock module out of the barn door and put it in the driver's door, then take the bad module and get 5 replacements.
Don't know if the 4x4 works and it should, I have shifted it to low, hit the gas and ripped the rear tires loose. I thought great that's why it was so cheap, the front axle is torn up. Then I got out and looked, manual hubs. dumbass! Haven't taken it to the tree farm yet, just to damn hot to be in the middle of the woods, and I don't think I have to worry about any snow for the next month or so. I will play the next time I go to the cabin, got 100 acres of trees in Brown county.
Power windows yea there all junk. Took me 3 hours of screwing around trying to get the bolts out before I said the hell with it and got the die grinder out. Did replace the front two motors, think I need to do the regulator on the passenger side.
Cigarette lighter blows a fuse any time the ashtray is put in, so I pulled the wire off of the back and ran a hot wire to the front sunglasses holder thingy overhead and set up the radar detector on the driver's visor. Still need to put an auxillary port on the floor of the front center section for electronics and another behind the center console for the kids electronics.
I definately need to find a FSM (factory service manual) for Vic. Would like to beable to look at blown up pictures to get a better idea of the lay of the land.
I think it's got a 1" body lift on it, but the fenders have not been cut. 33" fit, which suprised the hell out of me. Still needs a 38 or 40 but I think I'll keep the beadlocks if I can find a spare rim. Need to fabricate a bumper mount spare tire carrier, made one for the ramcharger, damn I hate lifting a 33, there no way I lifting a 38 or 40, I think I have a little dc winch at work. Look out I've got a project!
First things first I need to get the speedo correct. At 60mph it reads 50. Figure I'm getting 15mpg, I'm going to and from work for 10 days on one tank of fuel, 19.5 miles one way.
I am going to look into the codes from the glove box door and see what turns up
mudbuggy
1/2 ton status
Thanks Blue85 that's what I'll do, right after I do the codes from the glove box.
It's really easy to see if you have a body lift, there will be a spacer above/below your body mount bushings. I doubt it has one, pretty typical to fit 33's with no trimming or lift.
As for the wheels, I'd bet they aren't real beadlocks and they just look like they are.
For your speedo adjustment, you need to pull the rear diff cover and verify your gear ratio (either count the teeth on the ring and pinion or there should be a number stamped into the side of the ring gear that will tell you how many teeth are on each). Then, as mentioned you need to remove the speedo cable and the sender from the t-case. Once you figure out which speedo gear you have you can change it for the one you need.
As for the wheels, I'd bet they aren't real beadlocks and they just look like they are.
For your speedo adjustment, you need to pull the rear diff cover and verify your gear ratio (either count the teeth on the ring and pinion or there should be a number stamped into the side of the ring gear that will tell you how many teeth are on each). Then, as mentioned you need to remove the speedo cable and the sender from the t-case. Once you figure out which speedo gear you have you can change it for the one you need.
mudbuggy
1/2 ton status
You tell me!
The second picture is of the main road to my cabin (my property) HALF way up the hill. If you zoom in on the base on the hill you can see two people down there for a sort of idea of distance. That picture was taken in another toy of mine the ramcharger. The cabin is one mile off of the public road (gravel) on my property through half of the tree farm
The second picture is of the main road to my cabin (my property) HALF way up the hill. If you zoom in on the base on the hill you can see two people down there for a sort of idea of distance. That picture was taken in another toy of mine the ramcharger. The cabin is one mile off of the public road (gravel) on my property through half of the tree farm
