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Square Tube Driveshafts

I run a custom built 1.5" Square PTO drive shaft in the front of my 1ton i have mud bogged it and ran down the road trail to trail with the hubs locked in with no problem but it through some serious HELL and it is great.
 
What is involved with changing out to 1410 u-joints? Are there yolks available for both the differential and the t-case to eliminate the CV mounting plate?
 
Can a square drive shaft be ballanced or is it pointless?
 
Can a square drive shaft be ballanced or is it pointless?

It can and its not pointless, but I'm sure no driveshaft shop will touch it.

IMO, if that's what you want to do: cap off the small piece of square tube, then drill a hole in it. Pour some liquid in there (ATF is what I've heard recommended but as long as it won't rust the steel it probably doesn't matter much) and then weld the hole shut. This works just like equal/golf balls/air soft pellets in tires as a dynamic balancing agent, mrk5 on here used mercury in his homemade round shaft and its worked like a charm, driven to Moab a couple times I think with no vibration.

Of course, make sure you drill a hole or two at the top of the large tubing to let air out.


What is involved with changing out to 1410 u-joints? Are there yolks available for both the differential and the t-case to eliminate the CV mounting plate?


Yes there are yokes available for the diff and t-case. If you have a Dana 44 or 60 Chevy front axle you can change the yoke without issue. If you have a 10 bolt front axle you should tear the whole thing down and replace the crush sleeve, reset pinion bearing preload etc. Many people don't bother, especially because its only the front but its a gamble.
 
It can and its not pointless, but I'm sure no driveshaft shop will touch it.

IMO, if that's what you want to do: cap off the small piece of square tube, then drill a hole in it. Pour some liquid in there (ATF is what I've heard recommended but as long as it won't rust the steel it probably doesn't matter much) and then weld the hole shut. This works just like equal/golf balls/air soft pellets in tires as a dynamic balancing agent, mrk5 on here used mercury in his homemade round shaft and its worked like a charm, driven to Moab a couple times I think with no vibration.

Of course, make sure you drill a hole or two at the top of the large tubing to let air out.



I meant pointless in the fact that more then likely it's going to get dragged over rocks and thrashed on alot, so who try and ballance it. My rig wont be a DD for sure. I could deal with some vib IF it was not bad a freeway speeds. I would rather have it ballanced then not for sure, but as you said no driveshaft shop would touch it.
 
My rig is trailered all over the place, and rarely sees wheel speeds above 20mph offroad, so balancing isn't a huge concern...

I am running a D60 up front, so crush sleeves shouldn't be a big issue :)
 
I meant pointless in the fact that more then likely it's going to get dragged over rocks and thrashed on alot, so who try and ballance it. My rig wont be a DD for sure. I could deal with some vib IF it was not bad a freeway speeds. I would rather have it ballanced then not for sure, but as you said no driveshaft shop would touch it.

Square shafts and highway speeds should not be in the same sentence in my opinion ;)
 
Mine is made with receiver tube and it has a good bit of play inbetween the tubes that causes vibrations. When I go to the Atlas I am just going to have a shaft made with 1410 yokes on both ends. Mine square shaft runs a 1480 D60 joint at the case and a 1410 on the D60.
 
i like the square d-shaft run one in a k5 becase i flexed so much it pulled the stock shaft apart i had no problem with the square shaft:D
 
Square shafts and highway speeds should not be in the same sentence in my opinion ;)

Hey are you running flanges or hubs? I just did 35 spline outers so I got flanges, hopefully it wont be to bad with the square shaft.
 
Just a little update on my vibration

It's definitely not coming from the front

My rear shaft is a little bent and I think thats doing it.
 
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