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Stage 8 spindle nuts

89 jimmy

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I’m debating on using the factory style spindle nuts and washer, or stage 8 X-lock kit on my new spindle. I will be adding warm premium manual hubs. What are your thoughts on them? Do they live up to the hype? Have you used them? Are they safe on a daily driver truck? Thx

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They are fine. Imo they are a solution to a problem that doesnt exist. If you want an easy set of spindle nuts, get them off a 14 bolt full float after 84 or something. Single nut, key, and a small ring. Very easy to use. Much better than stage 8 design.

Or even easier is the right hand side off a sterling rear axle from fords.
 
Stage 8 spindle nuts are great, yes they are more expensive but they are very easy to set the bearing preload, have way more adjustment than the stock front setup and even the 14B nut setup.

When we were racing we actually tried to put them on the 14B simply for finer bearing preload adjustment, they don't fit in a 14B hub.

For a D60 the 14B setup is an improvement over stock but not as good as the Stage 8 setup IMO.
 
They are fine. Imo they are a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

I have to agree. Stock system works perfect for tens of thousands of axles out there. I'd put the money into some nice hubs. Yukon?

The 14 bolt spindle nuts fit a Dana 60, but not a 10 bolt.

If you have a 60 this is a great thing. Only one socket to carry and one type of spare nut system to carry. Kinda like having all your driveshaft u-joints the same.
 
I went with stage 8's when I decided to go with the yukon hubs
 
I already have the stage 8 kit, and the warn spindle nut kit ready to go. Whichever one I don’t use will be returned. I need to get this done tomorrow. Just need to figure out what to use. I don’t have the time to keep tinkering with loose bearings etc., so I’m looking for a set it, and forget it type thing. This is not an off road rig. Only trails and mild 4-wheeling. I need a reliable and safe highway driver.
 
Are the warn premiums that bad??? Should I just put my stock auto locking hubs back? I’ve never had a problem with them. I don’t do hardcore wheeling with this truck. But, I want it to work when I need it. Thx
 
you would be fine with black dial basics . they will work for you . just letting you know warn is NOT the top brand anymore when it comes to hubs .
 
I installed the stage 8 spindle nut kit on the passenger side last night. First impressions, I really like em. Much easier to set and no huge torque like the stock nuts. Just set the bearing pre-load, and lock it in with the special tanged washer and large snap ring. If it works well I’m going to do the other side too.
 
There is no question about the stage 8s working well once they're installed, they can't come off so unless you stretch the spindle or wear out bearings, the preload can't change. It really comes down to all the extra details.
Stock nut system obviously works ok but the adjustments can be a bit coarse, the outer nut torque is kind of a pain and it's kind of a pain to line the pin up in the greasy hole. We occasionally hear of failures due to the system coming loose somehow so it's possible to mess it up.
Stage 8's downsides are cost and you have to carry snapring pliers but you don't have to have a socket, you can get by effectively without it. That was part of our deal while racing, we were able to chuck another couple pound thing out of the tool bag. You also KNOW that the adjusting nut is going to be where you left it no matter what.
14 bolt nut system doesn't fit on a 10 bolt... :) And it's adjustments are a bit coarse. Otherwise it's a pretty good system. I worry about the retaining ring causing problems but chances of that are very slim and it's easy to augment with some wire if you're really worried.

If anything the left is the side to pay more attention to. The LH rotation of the wheel makes keeping RH thread fasteners tight a little more challenging.

On a previous note, Warn hubs for the 10B/D44 have always been really reliable. Much more so than the 35 spline D60 version. They actually made a weaker "fusible link" version years ago and they had to cut a lot of material out of them to make them break before shaft parts. This was before 4340 shafts and good joints and RCVs. If you're running this stuff you need to think about the yukon hubs (or maybe should have bought a D60) but for most of the world the Warns are just fine. Incidentally, the cheaper "plastic dial" warns use the same torque transfer parts as the premiums and don't really have many cap problems so if you have an old set of those don't be too concerned.
 
Stephen, thanks for the excellent response. I agree that the left side is more prone to the stock spindle nuts coming loose. The rotation of the wheel is opposite of the nut. I did the left side last week with the stock nuts and torqued the outer nut to 180ft lbs. (ALL washers put on correctly). I went for a short drive. A few days later, I took it apart in preparation for the other stage 8 kit. (Will be here today). When I took it apart guess what? That outer lock nut was no where near the 180ft lbs I set it to. It wasn’t loose, but it did loosen quite a bit. As I said, the washer tit WAS all installed correctly. I’m going stage 8 on this side too. I honestly think while some of the stock setups may work for some, I feel it’s just a poor design. I’ll check on the stage 8’s after a while and report back.
 
I jumped on the stage 8 bandwagon for my 60 i’m building. Should be here tomorrow I think. Looking forward to NOT needing to break out the gun show for assembly.
 
I bought them for my D60 at the Off Road Expo at a show special price, but have never installed them... yet. Had them for years lol!
 
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