Starting My Build-up

[jboyes]

Getting ready to put 14b sf and 3/4 ton 10b in. My gears, 4:56's and Detroit for the rear, and Auburn Posi for the front, came in late last week and my tires, 15x38.5x16.5 Boggers are in my garage. Just waiting on my brother (my mechanic) to rebuild the axles this weekend. Installed 3 inch body lift to go along with my 4 inch suspension. I think I will still need to do some trimming but that is ok with me. Just took my bumpers off tonight and after installing everything I am going to have one of my buddies construct some new bumpers. I have a few questions for you guys though. First, are the 10b 1/2 ton front end and the 3/4 ton 10b the same dimensions? Can I use the brake calipers from the 1/2 ton on the 3/4 ton? I measured the rotors and calipers and they seem to me to be the same size, so I would think they would work. Also, what material would you use to make the bumpers? Should I have him bolt and weld some tow hooks on, or what would you suggest for something sturdy to hook a strap to when I get stuck? And last any ideas you guys could give me would be appreciated as this is the first build that I have been involved in. Sorry this was so long and thanks for your help. These are some pics of before starting this project and where I am at now.

1. Before - 4 inch lift with 35's
2. Getting ready to install body lift
3. My buddy and I installing lift
4. My little helper and I taking bumpers off
5. Last pic of the night with bumpers off and body lift installed

 

[jboyes]

C'mon guys, can anyone answer my questions?

 

[RootBreaker]

sorry as my answers are not great.. however some ideas how you can try to figure some out as this is how I would do it...
good luck
Jeff

I have a few questions for you guys though. First, are the 10b 1/2 ton front end and the 3/4 ton 10b the same dimensions?

I dont know however a tape measure would definitely tell ya...

Can I use the brake calipers from the 1/2 ton on the 3/4 ton?

Only way to tell is to try... or better yet.. goto autozone.com and try ordering parts for a 1/2 ton then a 3/4 ton... if p/n is the same... yes they will work

I measured the rotors and calipers and they seem to me to be the same size, so I would think they would work.

Ditto as above

Also, what material would you use to make the bumpers?

Depends.. are you going to put a winch in there... do you want it to pertrude?
I am going to put a mile marker hydraulic winch (in the future) behind my front smittybuilt double tube bumper and put the roller fairlead into the bumper... and hopefully this friday going to order a Ramsey Patriot 15k to put under my bed and out through the double tube rear bumper.. with roller fairlead built into the bumper...

Should I have him bolt and weld some tow hooks on, or what would you suggest for something sturdy to hook a strap to when I get stuck?

well I have NICE front tow hooks.. cant find them anywhere.. 1979 stock 3/4 ton tow hooks... missed a set on ebay for $1 few months back

im going to put a receiver in the back... and you could put a receiver in the front... great tow point or portable winch spot... front or back....

 

[ramjet gmc]

Getting ready to put 14b sf and 3/4 ton 10b in. My gears, 4:56's and Detroit for the rear, and Auburn Posi for the front, came in late last week and my tires, 15x38.5x16.5 Boggers are in my garage.

Just waiting on my brother (my mechanic) to rebuild the axles this weekend. Installed 3 inch body lift to go along with my 4 inch suspension. I think I will still need to do some trimming but that is ok with me.

Just took my bumpers off tonight and after installing everything I am going to have one of my buddies construct some new bumpers. I have a few questions for you guys though.

First, are the 10b 1/2 ton front end and the 3/4 ton 10b the same
dimensions?

Can I use the brake calipers from the 1/2 ton on the 3/4 ton?

I measured the rotors and calipers and they seem to me to be the same size, so I would think they would work.

Also, what material would you use to make the bumpers?

Should I have him bolt and weld some tow hooks on, or what would you suggest for something sturdy to hook a strap to when I get stuck?

And last any ideas you guys could give me would be appreciated as this is the first build that I have been involved in.

Sorry this was so long and thanks for your help. These are some pics of before starting this project and where I am at now.

1. Before - 4 inch lift with 35's
2. Getting ready to install body lift
3. My buddy and I installing lift
4. My little helper and I taking bumpers off
5. Last pic of the night with bumpers off and body lift installed

ok i think i can read it now




First, are the 10b 1/2 ton front end and the 3/4 ton 10b the same
dimensions? --- THE ONLY THING DIFERNT IS THE OUTERS

Can I use the brake calipers from the 1/2 ton on the 3/4 ton? -- THE CALIPERS ARE THE SAME BUT THAT IS IT

I measured the rotors and calipers and they seem to me to be the same size, so I would think they would work. THE ROTERS AND BACKING PLATE ARE DIFFERENT

Also, what material would you use to make the bumpers? I LIKE STEEL LOOK ON THIS SITE YOU WILL GET A TON OF GOOD IDEAS





Should I have him bolt and weld some tow hooks on, or what would you suggest for something sturdy to hook a strap to when I get stuck?

 

[jboyes]

Thanks for answering my questions guys. I want to have everything there and waiting when he starts so there is no downtime to run to the parts store, that is why I was asking about the calipers, dimensions, etc... I did get the tape measure out before I posted the first message. I just wanted to make sure that my measurments were correct, that's why I was asking.

I think I will put a receiver in the front, already have one for the rear. Then when I get a winch I'll just set it up to use front and back.

 

[RootBreaker]

no downtime to run to the parts store

Yer funny.... expect downtime..messin with ya.. but if murphy is not on vacation expect company. Also if Murphy never visits me I always wonder what went wrong, what did I put on backwards, what can I expect to re-do... and ALWAYS holds true... bust my hands open, cant get bolts off, lost parts, incorrect parts..... GOOD DAY THEN!!!! [/quote]

I think I will put a receiver in the front, already have one for the rear. Then when I get a winch I'll just set it up to use front and back.

they are heavy but I know someone that has a 9k... REALLY HEAVY!!!!! plus sticks WAYYY OUT

 

[jboyes]

I know, there is always something that goes wrong. I'm just hoping this one time that everything will go perfect (yeah right). Blazer has been down about 2 months now, and now that I have all the parts to get it back going I want it to be done RIGHT NOW. But I am at the mercy of my brother since I have no tools or idea of how to put everything together, and he is not a highly motivated individual when it comes to stuff for me.

 

[RootBreaker]

I know, there is always something that goes wrong. I'm just hoping this one time that everything will go perfect (yeah right). Blazer has been down about 2 months now, and now that I have all the parts to get it back going I want it to be done RIGHT NOW. But I am at the mercy of my brother since I have no tools or idea of how to put everything together, and he is not a highly motivated individual when it comes to stuff for me.

such a pitty.. all it takes is beer and im there...my bros know that as they are drinkers too...

hell we put my motor in on a 30 pack of mgd!!!!

 

[Emmettology 101]

I have a few questions for you guys though. First, are the 10b 1/2 ton front end and the 3/4 ton 10b the same dimensions? Can I use the brake calipers from the 1/2 ton on the 3/4 ton? I measured the rotors and calipers and they seem to me to be the same size, so I would think they would work. Also, what material would you use to make the bumpers? Should I have him bolt and weld some tow hooks on, or what would you suggest for something sturdy to hook a strap to when I get stuck? And last any ideas you guys could give me would be appreciated as this is the first build that I have been involved in. Sorry this was so long and thanks for your help. These are some pics of before starting this project and where I am at now.

1/2 ton 10B's and 3/4 10B's should be the same and share the same calipers. But the caliper brackets and rotors are different..

As for the bumpers, depends on what style you are goign for. BUt definately use steel. If it is a boxy type bumper, go with 3/16" to 1/4" thick material... If tube(HREW or DOM) go with 1.5" to 2" with a wall thickness of .125" or larger....

As for the tow hooks, definately get some welded in the bumper as they should be stronger than bolt on units.

As far as ideas. Looks like you're on the right track.... Depending on what type of wheeling you do and what tranny you have, you may wanna go with 4.88 gears instead of the 4.56's... But that just a personal preferrence...

 

[jboyes]

I have offered alcoholic beverages and even told him I will put the axles back under the myself still not too motivated.

It's a sad day when an individual can't get motivated to drink beer and work on a 4x4.

 

[jboyes]

Thought about 4:88's but I am going from 3:08's running 35 inch tires to 4:56's with 38.5 so I figure there should be a noticeable improvement.

All we really have around here is deep mud and a few trails/hills no rocks.

Being able to swap the calipers is good (save some money there)

What about the tie rod? Will it work on the 3/4? Didn't think to ask earlier and I am at work so I do not have my tape measure or my truck nearby to check for myself.

 

[down4thakrown]

Can I use the brake calipers from the 1/2 ton on the 3/4 ton?

when you take off the calipers to swapem look at the under side with the bleeder there might be a a little hump that wont allow the caliper to seat right in the backing plate. you will have to grind that off or buy new calipers. the rotors and backing plates are slightly larger. if the wheels you plan i running have more then i think it is 2.5" of back spacing you will have to grind that caliper and backing plate. hammer helps too.

 

[jboyes]

Great, thanks for the heads-up.