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Steel Futures

SuperAwesomeDOOD

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Any fabricators or market watchers out there have any educated predictions on what steel will do over the coming months? I want to build an off-road camper using steel for the frame. It’s high right now, but it could go higher before it comes down. I’d like to get started on the build sooner than later, but also don’t want to grossly overpay. As it stands now, I’m paying roughly $1500 for the steel needed and $1500 for the aluminum needed. I guess even if it drops a couple hundred per ton, I’m not saving a vast amount...

https://www.barchart.com/futures/quotes/HVN12/futures-prices
 
Just paid 2.60 per foot more from 3 months ago price and its got the same dust on it from sitting longer than that .
 
I read an article last week that predicted US steel prices will continue to rise until Harris does something with the tariffs and other hurdles placed in the way of offshore steel by Trump. Their take was that as the pandemic comes to an end, construction will be backlogged and steel will be in high demand. The way things stand now, US steel companies will be able to compete due to the tariffs, and not as much Chinese product will be flooding the market, so they say the demand will outpace the production and prices will continue to rise for at least a few months. A look at the 52 largest publicly traded steel companies shows almost all of them with rising stock prices over the last few months, after plummeting due to the pandemic. TD Ameritrade predicts the steel market will continue to improve (read: increased consumer prices) for the next few months, and the aluminum market will remain neutral.
All that being said, the market price for steel futures really has very little to do with the price the consumer is paying for a few hundred pounds. I would keep checking with your local yards every few days, sooner or later an order will get cancelled and they will have a bunch of what you need laying around and will give you a good price on it. Don't forget to check with the wrought iron gate/fencing company in your area, they have a lot of stock left over from jobs that they will sometimes sell for cheap.
Remember, though, if anyone could accurately predict this, they would be rich and not reading CK5 on Friday night.
 
All of our steel and aluminum is going up with each purchase. I'm going to buy a bunch and store it.
 
From what Ive heard some suppliers are very low on inventory and will be for a short period of time. Then expect it to go up dramatically. Id buy and sit on it right now.
 
I am in HVAC. I just had a price increase of 15% for all my steel ductwork and fittings. I hear stable or up a little higher on steel but nobody is thinking price drop for 6 months to a year at least.
 
Well, I got antsy and brought home about a half ton of steel yesterday for my off-road trailer build. It’s the most expensive steel I’ve ever purchased. I payed a bit over $1000.
 
Material cost have been slow but steadily climbing for the last 6 months or so. It's been playing hell trying to keep up with all the changes every time I buy stuff for the shop at work.

With the current administration's love of china. I have a feeling we'll be flooded with foreign material by fall '21. But that's just an educated hunch.
 
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Dollar cost average your steel purchases over the next 12 months until you have everything you need for your project.


-G
 
Dont forget Canada steel .

Read a story years ago on a forum . Guy ordered cheeper steel for a project . Got the first sheet up on the cut table and found a half melted bolt in it with threads showing . He unloaded the sheet and returned it all . It was china steel .
 
I believe it....don't know a thing about Canadian steel. I'm sure it's better than Chinese, but that's not really saying much. Is it good? I would imagine so, they have a lot of the same resources and history around the Great Lakes area.
 
Never had a problem yet . Just got some last week .

My LIFE TABLE builds have canada steel in them also . Cut fine . Welded fine . No hidden stuff found in metal .
 
I believe it....don't know a thing about Canadian steel. I'm sure it's better than Chinese, but that's not really saying much. Is it good? I would imagine so, they have a lot of the same resources and history around the Great Lakes area.

I have no issues running material from our northern neighbors. Their standards are very similar to the US's.

There's a few other countries as well, Germany, Japan, the UK. They all have standards that are close too.
 
My quonset garage was built in Brampton Ontario,by "Future Steel Building" (though I bought it thru Steelmaster Buildings in VA!)--and the arches were made from from Canadian steel,which was Galvalume...got it in 1992,and so far the only rust on any part of it is the bolts fastening the arches together..

Many of the GM vehicles I've owned were built in Canada and they didn't seem to be as rusted or rotted as many others made in NY I've seen..
 
I have seen a lot of perfectly good sheets of diamond plate and sheet steel,pipe,etc. dumped off at scrapyards in the past,and they'll sell it for about triple what they gave for it per pound..

I've yet to buy new steel for anything,but I never did much fab work either..what I have built I used "pre-owned" steel ,which was much cheaper and good enough for my needs..
 
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