Is there anyway to reduce the pressure on the hyd system where it requires more driver input? I've replaced everything and there is zero slack . It reacts to the slightest input it's hyper sensitive compared to my other 2 late model trucks. I've adjusted the Allen screw on the box itself 1/8 turn should I give it another 1/8 ?
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That's a good thing in my opinion. Most people are trying to achieve what you have. I would give the screw another turn. 1/8 is nothing. I can't remember what direction I had to turn mine to tighten it up.
You're focused on the box, but how is the toe set? Not enough toe in will give you the same symptoms...
I'm not sure on the toe , the shop that changed out all the front end stuff did the alignment. It tracks extremely straight. I need to take it back and see if they can adjust it. What should I ask for toe in or out?
Toed in 1/8"-1/4".
skyhigh4by
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I had too much toe in and was having those same symptoms. Once it started a turn it woul almost dive in that direction
Mine is the same way almost like a dive left or right . 50-60 mph is where I notice it the most 65 above is smooth sailing. I took my old d rated tires off and got a new set of e rated all terrains and made no difference.
just do a test yourself
measure the tierod, from zerk fitting to zerk is easiest
then turn the adjusting collar so the tires pull in some, lets say 1/8" less than your first measurement. Tighten it up and take for a drive. Any difference? If not, try another 1/8" and drive it. Won't hurt anything, give it a try. See what happens. If you don't like it, go back to the first measurement and ADD 1/8". Test drive it.
Hydro assist is going to feel naturally tight when everything is correct. It's going to track straight and need very little input. It shouldn't "dart" though.
measure the tierod, from zerk fitting to zerk is easiest
then turn the adjusting collar so the tires pull in some, lets say 1/8" less than your first measurement. Tighten it up and take for a drive. Any difference? If not, try another 1/8" and drive it. Won't hurt anything, give it a try. See what happens. If you don't like it, go back to the first measurement and ADD 1/8". Test drive it.
Hydro assist is going to feel naturally tight when everything is correct. It's going to track straight and need very little input. It shouldn't "dart" though.
Allen screw is NOT where you adjust these boxes. That is to change the gear engagement, and causes excess wear, and apparently under certain circumstances can cause the box to lock up. The gear preload is set with an in-lb torque reading on the input side.
Read this if you want to know what changed between the various boxes: http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/chassis-suspension/ccrp-0901-gm-steering-box-upgrade/
You can reduce the pressure coming from the pump, which I did, but that just makes steering more difficult. It does not address how these things tend to drive like a boat. Not only is the box/variable ratio going to cause issues, the torsion bar used for a truck is almost certainly designed to allow instant assist with minimal wheel input, and there is ample room for slop in every component from the steering wheels to the column, which all need to be tight to eliminate the feeling of a dead steering wheel, which can probably exacerbate the feel of off/on/too much assist.
Read this if you want to know what changed between the various boxes: http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/chassis-suspension/ccrp-0901-gm-steering-box-upgrade/
You can reduce the pressure coming from the pump, which I did, but that just makes steering more difficult. It does not address how these things tend to drive like a boat. Not only is the box/variable ratio going to cause issues, the torsion bar used for a truck is almost certainly designed to allow instant assist with minimal wheel input, and there is ample room for slop in every component from the steering wheels to the column, which all need to be tight to eliminate the feeling of a dead steering wheel, which can probably exacerbate the feel of off/on/too much assist.
I read that and have considered digging in the bone yard for a jeep box since I got a jeep shaft in it. I have spent more on this dang front end than I spent for the truck. I just want a tighter feel that requires a little bit of effort.
I have some boxes around, but this is one of those projects that is at the bottom of my list unfortunately. I'd like to swap out the torsion bar for one from an F41 to just check it out. The solution is there, I'm just not certain what it is yet. If you've got all the other steering parts figured out, the box is the last piece.
