I too have an "oldie but a goodie" miller arc welder I bought from my boss at the parts store's machine shop many years ago--its about 3 feet tall and two feet wide-and HEAVY!.I had an old P&H welder too,same deal bulky and heavy too,somtimes it would throw sparks out of the case,but it always welded a nice bead(better that most others I've used).I'd say a miller or a lincoln"tombstone"welder is the one to get--and AC/Dc is better than AC alone,its easier to weld thin stuff on DC,though I've had only AC and there isnt much I cant weld with it--I have even used it to "spot" weld floor patches on all my vehicles--the only other way I could do it is to braze it with the torches,but sometimes brass isnt strong enough--usually the metal will break before a weld will if done properly.And if you turn it up to 225 amps,it makes a dandy hole puncher in metal to put bolts in--soak some 6011 rods in water for 5 minites and use them for hole punching and cutting(they sell special cutting and gougeing electrodes too,but the wet 6011 works good too).I wouldnt be without my welder,once you get one you'llnever regret it!. /forums/images/graemlins/weld.gif /forums/images/graemlins/weld.gif /forums/images/graemlins/weld.gif /forums/images/graemlins/weld.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif