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strange ebay find - factory Deisel S-10
- Thread starter chrisb420
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CSK (Kragen, Schucks, Checkers) lists the 2.2L 4-cyl diesel for '84 S-trucks ... but I'd never heard of it.
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I believe they sold these in Brazil and some other South American countries, and Australia/New Zealand. Australia/New Zealand is right-hand drive, so it probably came from South American. Automakers do not sell experimental vehicles. I've seen more than a few perfectly good vehicles go the scrap heap.
beater_k20
Banned
not all that uncommon actualy. i've stripped 3 of them, two for mini stock trucks, and one for a mini truck derby. we put a 2.3 Ford in the derby truck, and a built to the hilt 2.5 into the mini stocks.
they're just about as "common" as any other 1984 S10 is.
they're just about as "common" as any other 1984 S10 is.
chrisb420
1/2 ton status
beater_k20 said:not all that uncommon actualy. i've stripped 3 of them, two for mini stock trucks, and one for a mini truck derby. we put a 2.3 Ford in the derby truck, and a built to the hilt 2.5 into the mini stocks.
they're just about as "common" as any other 1984 S10 is.
must be just around your area. I worked for a gmc dealer from 95-02, and my father was a general manager for a chevy/olds/pontiac/gmc and i just about was raised behind the parts counter and this is the first time i had ever heard of it.
and so common its the only one for sale on ebay
JEBSR
1/2 ton status
This is what I have found on them so far. http://www.s10blazers.com/sserieshistory.htm
The VIN lists it as a 2.2L L4 FI OHV / REAR WHEEL DRIVE, so it couldn't be that unusual.
I've stripped a few - they are gutless wonders. Uses the same Isuzu 2.2 non-turbo engine the LUV and Isuzu PUP truck used. Ford also sold the Rangers with little diesels. And Dodge sold their full size 1/2 ton truck for one year with a Mitsubishi six-cylinder diesel.
Chevette too!..
Those S10's had the same Isuzu Diesel that the Chevette "Scooter" had in the 80's..we had one(Chevette Scooter), for a delivery vehicle at one parts store I worked at..it got well over 30 mpg..but unfortunately it got rear ended and totaled!..we never had to touch the motor,other than oil and filter changes..had almost 200,000 miles on it when it was wrecked,and still ran perfectly..
I've seen 80's El-Caminos,Monte Carlo's and Olds Cutlasses with a 4.3 V6
Diesel engine too..pretty rare,but they DID make them..not many lasted too long,all the ones I saw junked had less than 100K on them...
One customer I had owned a 78 Dodge D100 diesel pickup--the only one I've ever seen with a 243 CID diesel version of the 225 slant 6!..I guess they either didn't sell many here,or they all died an early death..haven't even seen any in junkyards..I wonder if they were as rugged as the slant 6 gas engine??--the guy I know who had that truck loved his,but was in deep doo-doo whenever it needed parts..had to special order just about everything..
I've also seen an Escort GT with a diesel and a 5 speed in one junkyard!--I could have owned it for 100 bucks,all it needed was a rack and pinion..but someone bought it before I did..
There are lots of "weird" vehicles with diesels you wouldn't suspect had them..VW Rabbit/Jetta's,Mazdas,Volvos,and the Ford Ranger pickups,Mitsubishi Raiders,Isuzu Troopers and Rodeos,etc..many more overseas than here,but I've seen quite a few in the junkyards around here..
Those S10's had the same Isuzu Diesel that the Chevette "Scooter" had in the 80's..we had one(Chevette Scooter), for a delivery vehicle at one parts store I worked at..it got well over 30 mpg..but unfortunately it got rear ended and totaled!..we never had to touch the motor,other than oil and filter changes..had almost 200,000 miles on it when it was wrecked,and still ran perfectly..
I've seen 80's El-Caminos,Monte Carlo's and Olds Cutlasses with a 4.3 V6
Diesel engine too..pretty rare,but they DID make them..not many lasted too long,all the ones I saw junked had less than 100K on them...
One customer I had owned a 78 Dodge D100 diesel pickup--the only one I've ever seen with a 243 CID diesel version of the 225 slant 6!..I guess they either didn't sell many here,or they all died an early death..haven't even seen any in junkyards..I wonder if they were as rugged as the slant 6 gas engine??--the guy I know who had that truck loved his,but was in deep doo-doo whenever it needed parts..had to special order just about everything..
I've also seen an Escort GT with a diesel and a 5 speed in one junkyard!--I could have owned it for 100 bucks,all it needed was a rack and pinion..but someone bought it before I did..
There are lots of "weird" vehicles with diesels you wouldn't suspect had them..VW Rabbit/Jetta's,Mazdas,Volvos,and the Ford Ranger pickups,Mitsubishi Raiders,Isuzu Troopers and Rodeos,etc..many more overseas than here,but I've seen quite a few in the junkyards around here..
beater_k20
Banned
diesel4me said:
never seen a mid or full size GM with a 6 cyl diesel in it, Olds 5.7 diesels were available in them i know. we've got a guy that buys all the 5.7 diesels we can throw at him. uses them as the basis for big cube Olds 5.7 based buildups. supposedly they have more meat in the cylinder walls, and will accept a longer stroke crank than the gas 5.7 will.
I don't think they were V6's. They were actually 260 V8's, which just like the 5.7L diesels, was already a production gas block, just converted for diesel use.
Diesel blocks are enormously beefy (Olds that is) in almost all regards, but cost 10's of thousands of dollars to convert to a gas motor, and even then are applicable only to racing use.
Diesel blocks are enormously beefy (Olds that is) in almost all regards, but cost 10's of thousands of dollars to convert to a gas motor, and even then are applicable only to racing use.
beater_k20
Banned
10s of thousands of dollars for what?
First off, I was wrong. There was a 263 V6 and a 260 V8, both diesels. What a dumb idea. Anyways...
I can't remember the specifics, I got a block for free and started doing the research a couple years back. Crank journals are different than Olds gas engines, which means custom crank or custom rods, then custom bearings, and so on. Custom pistons, and it just keeps going.
Of course, that was to get displacement up to something respectable. (400+ CID)
Turning one of those blocks simply from diesel to gas in the same displacement would probably be cheaper (new heads and pistons at the least) but why bother? Probably double the reciprocating mass with no need for it when a gas 350 would do the same thing.
I can't remember the specifics, I got a block for free and started doing the research a couple years back. Crank journals are different than Olds gas engines, which means custom crank or custom rods, then custom bearings, and so on. Custom pistons, and it just keeps going.
Of course, that was to get displacement up to something respectable. (400+ CID)
Turning one of those blocks simply from diesel to gas in the same displacement would probably be cheaper (new heads and pistons at the least) but why bother? Probably double the reciprocating mass with no need for it when a gas 350 would do the same thing.
Mondelo used to offer either a kit or the parts to turn one of those 5.7 diesel blocks into a 440ci gasser. Shop I worked at built pump gas compression & cam'd 440 for a customer who put it back in his wife's formerly diesel powered mid-size stationwagon.
JEBSR
1/2 ton status
They did make a 4.3 V6 diesel in the FWD cutlass and on the FWD buick Century.
atho
1/2 ton status
One of my ex-girlfriends had an '84 with that diesel engine. i got to drive it a few times, and let me tell you....if you think the 2.2L gasser from the newer S10's has no balls, it puts the little diesel to shame. but they do last forever (hers had 300,XXX miles and ran fine and got almost 40 mpg, her brother totaled it when he was drunk).
About the Dodge diesel, dodge also used a Perkins diesel from the factory back in the 60's. Then they used the Mitsu diesel in the late 70's. Finally got it right with the Cummins.
About the Dodge diesel, dodge also used a Perkins diesel from the factory back in the 60's. Then they used the Mitsu diesel in the late 70's. Finally got it right with the Cummins.
JEBSR said:
The Cadillac 84/85 Fleetwood/Deville were also offered with that 4.3l Diesel V6 engine.
