Jay Bird
Registered Member
89 blazer with 350 and I can't get filter off. I have it all broke off but about an inch and all the insides are out. Have tried everything I know.
Help!
Thanks
Jay
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Jay
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stuck oil filter
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sharp cold chisel and a mini sledge.. hit the bottom ring/plate at an angle..
gotblazers
1/2 ton status
With only an inch left its going to be a monster bitch. Your probably going to have to pull a Fordum trick out of your hat now. But i work at goodyear and do this kinda **** all day so heres the tricks i use for stubborn spinoff filters.
1.Oil filter wrench, If you have an inch left this might work depending on how your clearances are.
2.Use a oil filter claw device to crush it in just a tad for a good grip then turn the SOB
I've gone as far to stick a phillips head screw driver through a filter and twist it off with the leverage of the screwdriver but that is less than ideal.
Good luck
Confedneck
3/4 ton status
big channellocks
Stomis
Professional Amateur
This happened to me before. I had no filter wrench, socket, big channel locks, or jaws. Up until this point I have never had the stab it with a screw driver technique fail...
Well I shredded the filter like you did. I pulled off all the tin on the outside until just the base that met the block was left. I then did what ryoken said. Put the corner of a small chisel on it and started smacking it with a hammer in a loosening direction. Worked after 10mins.
Well I shredded the filter like you did. I pulled off all the tin on the outside until just the base that met the block was left. I then did what ryoken said. Put the corner of a small chisel on it and started smacking it with a hammer in a loosening direction. Worked after 10mins.
OK heres a Fordum trick that might work. I have only seen one this bad once, and I was not the guy working on it.
A large screwdriver will usually get behind the front lip and bend it away from the block.
If you do this a small amount all the way around, it will usually unscrew.
There are only two things that can hold a filter on like that. Either it was crossthreaded to start with and it was forced on, or the rubber gasket has bonded to the engine.
I have never seen a crossthreaded one that sealed. They usually never tighten up enough to keep from leaking.
But, if the gasket is stuck, you are trying to break it loose from the surface in shear, which is where the bond is strongest.
If you pries it away, it lets go easily.
Two things to watch out for. First, do not bend it much. If you do, you will warp the threads of the filter where it is screwed on and lock them.
Also, DO NOT let your screwdriver or prybar reach into where the rubber seal is. If you damage the sealing surface where it mounts, you may have problems with subsequent filters leaking.
A large screwdriver will usually get behind the front lip and bend it away from the block.
If you do this a small amount all the way around, it will usually unscrew.
There are only two things that can hold a filter on like that. Either it was crossthreaded to start with and it was forced on, or the rubber gasket has bonded to the engine.
I have never seen a crossthreaded one that sealed. They usually never tighten up enough to keep from leaking.
But, if the gasket is stuck, you are trying to break it loose from the surface in shear, which is where the bond is strongest.
If you pries it away, it lets go easily.
Two things to watch out for. First, do not bend it much. If you do, you will warp the threads of the filter where it is screwed on and lock them.
Also, DO NOT let your screwdriver or prybar reach into where the rubber seal is. If you damage the sealing surface where it mounts, you may have problems with subsequent filters leaking.
I've taken the air hammer with a sharp chisel to the remains of an oil filter that I ripped the can part off of,trying to unscrew it....when all I had left was the threaded plate with all the holes that screws ri the block,I used the air chisel by sticking the chisel in one of the holes in that plate and "blaghhhted" it counter-clockwise till it loosened up enough to unscrew it...
I've had many stubborn filters refuse to come off with normal filter wrenches..had to spear them with a big screwdriver and pray them came loose instead of tearing apart--one I got off using a ball joint fork jammed into the holes on the base of it and I turned it with a big adjustible wrench..
I've had many stubborn filters refuse to come off with normal filter wrenches..had to spear them with a big screwdriver and pray them came loose instead of tearing apart--one I got off using a ball joint fork jammed into the holes on the base of it and I turned it with a big adjustible wrench..
i have removed the main part and used a round punch and hammer in the 6-8 oil flow holes in the top of the filter.
DEMON44
Low-Tech Redneck
not at all true.........
man oh man....... until you have had to deal with a filter that was installed with locktite........ you HAVEN'T LIVED!
guy comes in for a service. both oil filters on an older Series60 detroit were locktited on. and I mean they may as well have been welded on. had to replace the filter housing and which also contains the oil cooler....... buddy was pissed about that. but that'll teach ya for going to quick charlies for oil changes......
LOL then I have lived Luke!!!!
I have several friends who are mechanical morons, yet they still insist on putting their own junk together.
One of these guys had heard from another "mechanic" friend of his, that oil filters can loosen up that's why they didn't put them on older cars!!!!!!!!!!
So yes, his Honda, his Jeep, his Dodge pickup and his cummins all had lock tite on them, and he used plenty trust me.
Heat worked pretty well on those but he didn't admit to loctite until I got the first one off ( all were overdue on the oil change by a huge amount).
It took me 6 hours to get 4 freaking filters off
euzoa
1/2 ton status
the most common cause of a stuck oil filter is people using the oil filter wrench to install it in stead of just your hand. the hammer and chisel way is the way to go hear. never used an air chisel but that sounds easier to get in there. Not sure of the force though, if its really stuck its still gonna need a 3-5lb and hand chisel.
I've seen my fair share of stuck oil filters, filters that you can't get a oil filter wrench on, and the all that good stuff.
Here's my trick:
- Take off your belt, A leather one works best. Loop the belt around the filter and through the buckle in a way that when you pull on it it will go lefty loosey.
This has always worked for me on the most stubborn ones.
I have stabbed a few with a screw driver and sometimes it works. The last time I did the stab & turn method I ended up in your predicament. I then grabbed my pliers and gripped them on the 1 inch of material left and rotated the pliers counter clockwise in my hand to crush the can inward, then the threads loosened up enough & it finally came off.
I also have an oil resistant piece of rubber in my tool box. It's about 3" wide x 6" long x 1/6" thick. It has a killer grip on an oil filter and won't slip in the palm of my hand. It's one of those "What is this for?" kind of things that works amazingly well.
Good luck. It's gonna be awesome when you get it off!
Here's my trick:
- Take off your belt, A leather one works best. Loop the belt around the filter and through the buckle in a way that when you pull on it it will go lefty loosey.
This has always worked for me on the most stubborn ones.
I have stabbed a few with a screw driver and sometimes it works. The last time I did the stab & turn method I ended up in your predicament. I then grabbed my pliers and gripped them on the 1 inch of material left and rotated the pliers counter clockwise in my hand to crush the can inward, then the threads loosened up enough & it finally came off.
I also have an oil resistant piece of rubber in my tool box. It's about 3" wide x 6" long x 1/6" thick. It has a killer grip on an oil filter and won't slip in the palm of my hand. It's one of those "What is this for?" kind of things that works amazingly well.
Good luck. It's gonna be awesome when you get it off!
Jay Bird
Registered Member
Got it off!!
Thanks guys! I think the big screwdriver, prying the ring away to break the suction worked. Did this in a few places, hit it with the hammer and chisel and it came right off.
Thanks again!
Jay
Thanks guys! I think the big screwdriver, prying the ring away to break the suction worked. Did this in a few places, hit it with the hammer and chisel and it came right off.
Thanks again!
Jay
Way to go. Forgot to mention one thing. Double check and make sure that the rubber seal came off with the old filter.
Even on filters that came off easy, I have seen the seal stick to the truck. And they always leak when you put the new one on over the old one.
Even on filters that came off easy, I have seen the seal stick to the truck. And they always leak when you put the new one on over the old one.
Yes it's no fun when the gasket sticks and you don't notice til you start the engine and oil begins spraying everywhere.
HOW THE **** DID YOU GET IT ON SO TIGHT!!!! I beleive the directions say a half or 3/4 turn from snug... I always put some new oil on the gasket before I put mine on, and never had any issues, Yet....
