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a Detroit "No-Spin" is the regular Detroit we all put in our 14-bolts, yes?

Said another way, there's only one kind of Detroit for the 14bff, yes?

It's the Gov-Loc that is the POS from the factory?

-- A
 
NOOBIE! :D


Gov-Lock looks like this:

govlock.sized.jpg



Standard 14-Bolt "Open" carrier (that Detroits go into) looks like this:

opendiff14bolt.sized.jpg




Gov-Locs have that weird 3-spider gear looking thing......conventional open carrier has the symmetrical 4-spider gear "cross" setup.

Anyway.....consider yourself edu-makated. Go forth and sin no more! :usaflag:
 
and the Detroits are all the same for the 14bff? Some people call 'em Detroits, others No-Spin ... they the same animal?

-- A
 
Thanks for clearin' that up for the rest of "NOOBS" of the world.

BTW, how'd you get such a high post count Noob :D
 
BurbLover said:
Thanks for clearin' that up for the rest of "NOOBS" of the world.

BTW, how'd you get such a high post count Noob :D
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No n00b to the world of K5's, I've been posting here since 'fore Y2K5. I am, however, a noob to the world of wheelin' for real. :D

-- A
 
nother noob question....
what does a factory detroit look like, and whats the difference in those and the aftermarket detroit?

Did detroit lockers ever go into 3/4 tons?? Mine is supposedly a government issue (not military).. for what that's worth..

would the factory detroit have the 4 little shafts like an open carrier? How do I identify if its a locker from the factory?? (I'm praying its either open or locker. and not gov bomb..) I'll change diff fluid in a few days when some more $$ comes in...........
 
78Suburban said:
nother noob question....
what does a factory detroit look like, and whats the difference in those and the aftermarket detroit?

Did detroit lockers ever go into 3/4 tons?? Mine is supposedly a government issue (not military).. for what that's worth..

would the factory detroit have the 4 little shafts like an open carrier? How do I identify if its a locker from the factory?? (I'm praying its either open or locker. and not gov bomb..) I'll change diff fluid in a few days when some more $$ comes in...........
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I *thought* the factory only offered Gov-Locks, RPO G80.

In general, however, the number of shafts should be the deciding factor. Four is for open carriers and Detroits, three for Gov-Locks.

-- A
 
I think people on here have said that CUVC's often came with factory lockers... I doubt there's much change of mine actually having a locker, but I can hope it does....
 
dremu said:
I *thought* the factory only offered Gov-Locks, RPO G80.

In general, however, the number of shafts should be the deciding factor. Four is for open carriers and Detroits, three for Gov-Locks.

-- A
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I believe you are correct on the factory only gov-locks thingy.

However, mil-spec (military specification) 5/4 ton CUCVs had detroits in them. The mil-spec detroit is the same as an aftermarket detroit.
 
BurbLover said:
I believe you are correct on the factory only gov-locks thingy.

However, mil-spec (military specification) 5/4 ton CUCVs had detroits in them. The mil-spec detroit is the same as an aftermarket detroit.
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Yeah, don't rub it in ... some of the pickup CUCV's came that way (particularly the M1028 heavy ones, think those're the ones with a Detroit up front!)

But the *Blazer* CUCV's came with a Gov-Lock in a 10-bolt -- like mine. 'Sokay, not like I'm gonna wheel that truck (it's straight, wonder of wonders!) but still. :angry1:

-- A
 
dremu said:
Yeah, don't rub it in ... some of the pickup CUCV's came that way (particularly the M1028 heavy ones, think those're the ones with a Detroit up front!)
-- A
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all the CUCV's based on the pickup had a Detroit in the 14 bolt.

No-Spin is Tractech's way of denoting any Detroit locker not sold to the general public- i.e. to General Motors in mass quantities for the CUCV, or other industrial apps.

none of them had Detroits up front...some, like the 1028 heavies, had a Trak-Lok, which is a clutch pack type limited slip and not a locker.
 
Remmeber, though, the 14boltff Gov lock was pretty strong....way better than the 10 bolt version
 
the military ones have they were all one tons( 5/4 ton trucks according to the military) and mine looks just like my old detriot I had in another 14 bolt
 
atho said:
all the CUCV's based on the pickup had a Detroit in the 14 bolt.

No-Spin is Tractech's way of denoting any Detroit locker not sold to the general public- i.e. to General Motors in mass quantities for the CUCV, or other industrial apps.
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Uhh, the Detroit I just bought for my 14bff says "No-Spin" on it, which was what prompted this whole discussion. Or is the 14bff an industrial app? :D

none of them had Detroits up front...some, like the 1028 heavies, had a Trak-Lok, which is a clutch pack type limited slip and not a locker.
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That thing. Knew they had some kind of traction device in the D60, couldn't remember what.

-- A
 
The Detroit "No Spin" is just one type of locker they make....

They also make something called a "Soft Locker" and a "C Locker?"... anyway, the only option on the 14BFF is the "No Spin".....the soft locker is for lighterweight vehicles and axles, etc.

A quick Google on "Detroit Locker" will get you to a few pages that esplain it all.... :thumb:
 
atho said:
No-Spin is Tractech's way of denoting any Detroit locker not sold to the general public- i.e. to General Motors in mass quantities for the CUCV, or other industrial apps.
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Not true. No-Spin and Detroit Locker are just 2 different marketing names that have been used over the years for the same product. The orignal name was the No-Spin, back when the unit was first sold in 1939 (how's that for some "old tech"?)

For more than you ever wanted to know about differentials, click on http://www.angelfire.com/super/ThunderTruck/Technical.htm and then click on the "Automotive Locking Differentials" link... :cool1:
 
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