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Stupid ? time. Tranny BB vs. SB

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I haven't had much experience with big block chevy's. Is the tranny and bellhousing pattern the same on big block and small blocks? This would be for a turbo 400 tranny.

Just need verification :o

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Yup...same bell pattern for small block, big block and 6.2 diesel.
 
Yes, same, everythingl bolts up. Torque convertor stall speeds are different between SBC and BBC so you may have to get the proper torque convertor to match your engine.
 
hey i dont mean to offend anyone, but what difference does the engine you bolt it to have on a torque converter?
 
hey i dont mean to offend anyone, but what difference does the engine you bolt it to have on a torque converter?

Torque curve, plus maybe idle speed, redline. A BB will prolly put out maximum torque earlier than a similar-configured SB (i.e. if comparing stock motors.)

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The stall speed is different for a SBC and BBC torque convertor. I think SBC OEM stall speed torque convertor is 1500rpm and BBC OEM convertor stall speed is 1200rpm. Best to verify those numbers, but there is a difference.
 
The diesels use a different stall speed converter than gas ones too,its got a 6 bolt flexplate pattern,but 3 out of the 6 will bolt to a gas engine's flex plate --in fact,GM used the diesel torque converters on some gas applications also,I have seen several G series vans with 292 sixes that had the 6 bolt converter,some in BB trucks like C-30's with dump bodies,and I've read a service bulletin on some GM trucks in the 80's that had "low speed shudder" problems ,the fix was to install the 6 bolt diesel converter ..

I think the stall speed is so close a lot of people wouldn't feel the difference on the 3 versions they had--what I notice most in the diesels I have is the tranny feels like it wants to "creep" at a stop light more than a tranny in a gas engined truck,you really have to kep your foot firm on the brakes,and when you accelerate,you take right off,the engine doesn;t seem to wind up first ,then go....personally I prefer an automatic that feels like its not slipping at all,I never liked the slippage a high stall speed converter delivers,to me it sounds like its just wasting fuel and not really doping anything good for the tranny--heats it up and kills it faster maybe?..

I know guys who have swapped 700r4's into their diesels ,that originally came from gas engined trucks,they claim the higher stall speed isn't that noticeable ,maybe it feels a little peppier even,having it rev a bit higher before launching..they could only use three out of six bolts on the flexplate (just as a gas job would)so far none have had any problems with "only" having 3 bolts--if a 454 gets by with 3,I doubt a 6.2 would be any more powerful..

Turbo 400's from factory BB vehicles usually have more clutch packs and clutches than one from a small block,maybe some stronger sprags too..I have one from a 74 Monte-Carlo 454 sitting in my shed,been hoping it might mate to my NP208,but I think the tail is going to be a tad too long...be a nice spare for my truck or maybe a replacement for the dying 700r4 in my Suburban..

O like the fact GM stuck with one typical bell housing on so many years and engines..sure makes bolting an engine in from "whatever" year you can get one from a lot easier...Fords suck in this respect,seems they had a lot of "specific" bell housings and you were S-O-L if you didn't have the one the motor came with..
 

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