Superlift 1104 x over pitman arm

[lochenjons]

After a lot of searching I keep seeing people saying they're getting it for ~$40 but I haven't found anything under $60. Is there any place that still sells the arm for cheap? And it works with 1/2 ton draglink ends right? Which work with a crossover draglink such as ORD's or WFO's? thanks

 

[dremu]

After a lot of searching I keep seeing people saying they're getting it for ~$40 but I haven't found anything under $60. Is there any place that still sells the arm for cheap? And it works with 1/2 ton draglink ends right? Which work with a crossover draglink such as ORD's or WFO's? thanks

IIRC, it's made for the smaller DRE's and has to be reamed for the big ones; WFO sells them pre-reamed, if I 'member right.

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[gmc4cw]

also the ORD drag link does not use 1/2 ton draglink ends. they use 1 ton superduty TRE's.

 

[thatK30guy]

After a lot of searching I keep seeing people saying they're getting it for ~$40 but I haven't found anything under $60. Is there any place that still sells the arm for cheap? And it works with 1/2 ton draglink ends right? Which work with a crossover draglink such as ORD's or WFO's? thanks

I think I've paid on average $55 shipped to my door.

You're probably hearing $40 for the arm itself but that doesn't include shipping costs. I'd say what you found at under $60 is about right.

 

[lochenjons]

also the ORD drag link does not use 1/2 ton draglink ends. they use 1 ton superduty TRE's.

Who makes ones that do work with the 1/2 ton ends? WFO?

 

[gmc4cw]

Who makes ones that do work with the 1/2 ton ends? WFO?

why would you want that? the bigger the better. just buy a complete kit and stop trying to half-ass it.

 

[lochenjons]

why would you want that? the bigger the better. just buy a complete kit and stop trying to half-ass it.

I think now thats what I might end up doing. It's nice to spend a little less when you dont have the money and dont necessarily need that extra strength but oh well. And with the d44 and soon bigger tires than my 35"s (38"s or so), drag link ends arent what worries me all that much.

 

[big83chevy4x4]

there are 2 differnet sizes in tapers, one for the tie rod ends and one for drag link ends. WFO reams the pitman arm for the drag link ends. no one else that i know of does this.all the other arms fit the tie rod ends.

the only difference that you are going to find between 1/2 ton and 1 ton tie rod end is the thread size. which is no stronger in a push/pull force, only for hitting a rock and bending it that way. and if you bend a draglink end by hitting a rock, then you have bigger problems .

 

[lochenjons]

there are 2 differnet sizes in tapers, one for the tie rod ends and one for drag link ends. WFO reams the pitman arm for the drag link ends. no one else that i know of does this.all the other arms fit the tie rod ends.

the only difference that you are going to find between 1/2 ton and 1 ton tie rod end is the thread size. which is no stronger in a push/pull force, only for hitting a rock and bending it that way. and if you bend a draglink end by hitting a rock, then you have bigger problems .

Soo.. If I get ORD's draglink without the ends, my 1/2 ton ends will NOT work without retapering. I need to buy there's which is $95 plus $70 for the pitman.

WFO will not work either without their ends but they ream the pitman arm to fit their ends (and not 1/2 ton I'm assuming) and I also assume ORD does this also or else why would they sell ends that dont work with their own pitman arm.

OR I'm wrong and ORD draglink work with 1/2 ton draglink ends which work with the superlift drop pitman arm.

OR Someone that I'm not aware of does the above. That's what I want since it save me a little over $100 by not having to buy the entire kit and being able to get a cheaper pitman arm. Thats a tank of gas right there.

 

[lochenjons]

Soo.. If I get ORD's draglink without the ends, my 1/2 ton ends will NOT work without retapering. I need to buy there's which is $95 plus $70 for the pitman.

WFO will not work either without their ends but they ream the pitman arm to fit their ends (and not 1/2 ton I'm assuming) and I also assume ORD does this also or else why would they sell ends that dont work with their own pitman arm.

OR I'm wrong and ORD draglink work with 1/2 ton draglink ends which work with the superlift drop pitman arm.

OR Someone that I'm not aware of does the above. That's what I want since it save me a little over $100 by not having to buy the entire kit and being able to get a cheaper pitman arm. Thats a tank of gas right there.

Anyone? If there isn't one like that, no big deal, but I need to know so I can order everything

 

[gmc4cw]

The ends ORD use have really short threaded ends on them. a 1/2 ton draglink end is about 4-5" longer.

If you call ORD they will be honest with you about what you can peice together using there components. I am sure they would rather sell you something then nothing.

 

[big83chevy4x4]

Soo.. If I get ORD's draglink without the ends, my 1/2 ton ends will NOT work without retapering. I need to buy there's which is $95 plus $70 for the pitman.

WFO will not work either without their ends but they ream the pitman arm to fit their ends (and not 1/2 ton I'm assuming) and I also assume ORD does this also or else why would they sell ends that dont work with their own pitman arm.

OR I'm wrong and ORD draglink work with 1/2 ton draglink ends which work with the superlift drop pitman arm.

OR Someone that I'm not aware of does the above. That's what I want since it save me a little over $100 by not having to buy the entire kit and being able to get a cheaper pitman arm. Thats a tank of gas right there.

the pitman arm out of the box will not fit any draglink end. it uses tie rod ends.

i believe the ORD drag link will be too long if you use DLE as it is made for TRE which are shorter. im not 100% on this because i believe you have to have a measurement to give to ORD.

WFO reams the pitman arm to fit DLE. also their drag link would be good for this as its made to length using
DLE.

BUT most steering arms at the knuckle will be tapered to fit a TRE, the WFO arm is made to fit DLE. it would be kinda wierd to have a DRE at the pitman arm and a TRE at the knuckle.

now you can use stock TRE off the tie rod on the draglink to save some money without reaming the steering arm or the pitman arm, but the pass side end is longer (the one with the stablizer hole) and is more prone to bending than a short end.

 

[lochenjons]

the pitman arm out of the box will not fit any draglink end. it uses tie rod ends.

i believe the ORD drag link will be too long if you use DLE as it is made for TRE which are shorter. im not 100% on this because i believe you have to have a measurement to give to ORD.

WFO reams the pitman arm to fit DLE. also their drag link would be good for this as its made to length using
DLE.

BUT most steering arms at the knuckle will be tapered to fit a TRE, the WFO arm is made to fit DLE. it would be kinda wierd to have a DRE at the pitman arm and a TRE at the knuckle.

now you can use stock TRE off the tie rod on the draglink to save some money without reaming the steering arm or the pitman arm, but the pass side end is longer (the one with the stablizer hole) and is more prone to bending than a short end.

So DLE are 1/2 ton draglink ends right? They say how it is basically the superlift pitman arm but they ream out to fit the chevy ends but I thought it did not need to be reamed?

So it sounds like their draglink works with my 1/2 ton ends and their pitman arm works with it as well. And if they really have to ream it out then I'd be stuck buying their arm anyway.

If all that's true I'll buy their draglink and put my ends on it and buy their steering arm too. Then I'll either buy a superlift pitman arm or buy theirs if it really does need to be reamed.

Or if I'm totally wrong about all that I'll give ORD a call and see what they can do

EDIT: Ok now I remember a long time ago I sent wfo an email asking about this and their draglink does work with my stock ends. He said, however, the pitman arm does need to be reamed. I searched and read tons of threads saying the superlift arm did not need to be reamed and a couple people said it did. What gives?

 

[gmc4cw]

Or if I'm totally wrong about all that I'll give ORD a call and see what they can do

smartest thing you have posted in this thread yet. If only someone had suggested that earlier.

 

[lochenjons]

smartest thing you have posted in this thread yet. If only someone had suggested that earlier.

Well now I've figured out everything. The superlift arm needs to be reamed to work with DLE but not TRE, which is why WFO reams theirs. So I'm gonna get their draglink and steering arm and pitman arm, use my ends, and be done with it. Thanks guys for the help and patience with me being so cheap And now with the $115 I saved I can get a ck5 membership finally