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mollyman

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I have an 81 k10 sub. It has a 350 - 350th - 208 combo. The 208 has the slip yoke. I would like to get rid of it so I was wondering a few things. Would it be better to swap in a 205 or swap in a 241 with a sye kit on it? And did they ever make the 208 with out a slip yoke? If they made the 208 with out the slip yoke I know that would be the easiest swap but if not what would be the easiest of the other 2? Our if anybody has any other ideas please share. For your info my burb has a 14blt from a 1ton with 4.56/detroit, disc brakes. The front is a 10bolt, open diff. 3" springs front, DIY shackle flip rear. Running 34/10.5 ltb super swampers. But someday I WILL put in a 60 in the front. (in case any of this matters for strength of the tcase) THANKS for any help
 
Personally I'd run a 241, if you can find the cable drive variant, or if you don't care about speedometer, any of the 241's. :)

205 is unquestionably stronger, but the 241 is a great case. Great low range (vs. 205 of course) and has the SYE available. Probably easier to find a 241 that will bolt to a 350 than a 205, especially a fixed yoke 205.

Essentially a bolt in, uses the same shifter and all as the 208, unlike the 205.
 
Thanks for the info. I can get a 241 for free (needs rebuilt) is why I asked in the first place. Yeah I was wondering about doing away with the speedo but will it matter for the other gauges I do need like temp., fuel, etc.. Or is the speedo totaly independent from the rest? While I have ya I removed my gas tank and there is a wire that runs down to a little "nipple" that sticks up on the sending unit, is that the fuel gauge wire? On the end of the wire is a little "half" ball looking deal and the flat side has the hole to accept the nipple? And I was going to get a new sending unit since I have access to it and it is 26 years old, the filter and pump are outside of the tank right? I have no knowledge of the plumping on my rig. So if I get a new sending unit I might as well get a new fuel filter and pump? So what makes up the sending unit?
 
Speedo will be totally independent on your '81. I see people selling 241 parts, you could probably eventually find the speedo drive output parts, to hook it back up later on.

I *believe* the wire you describe is the sending unit wire. There are actually only two wires on those setups, a ground wire that runs to the frame somewhere, usually black, and typically a pink wire for the gauge sending unit wire.

I'd probably not replace the sending unit, unless you KNOW it's bad. (not a fact just because the gauge didn't read right) They aren't really cheap, and not a whole lot to go wrong with them, unless it's really rusted and you are afraid fittings might fall off or leak. You can clean the sender to make sure it reads as well as possible, I believe others have discussed the procedure, as well as myself. You can try searching, if you can't find it, post up again, I'll try and find it.

Fuel pump is external of the tank, bolted to the passenger side front of the block, down low near the frame rail. I *personally* would not replace unless it dies on you. Quite reliable, and easy to get, so either buy a spare and keep it in the truck, or just wait until it dies if you are using the truck solely as a daily driver. Aftermarket parts are iffy in quality, putting a new one on doesn't mean it's going to be any better than the one you take off.

Fuel filter(s) if stock, are in the carb (where the metal fuel line threads in to it) and at the bottom of the sender, that little "sock". If the sock is in good shape, leave it alone, (new sender probably comes with one if you do go that route) carb one is fine to replace, but tends to be a real pain.

Tips for the fuel filter in the carb that work for me is to disconnect the metal fuel line at the fuel pump, which gives you just a HAIR more movement at the carb. With that loose, remove the fuel line from the carb, watching to make sure the nut is spinning on the fuel line, and you are not twisting the metal line up. The nut SHOULD spin while the line stays in place. If not, that fuel line is a pain to find new from all accounts, avoid kinking it at all cost.

When working with the fuel system metal lines, ALWAYS use tubing wrenches, NEVER use open ends. They are made specifically for these jobs, and are well worth buying if you don't have them and need to do this. When dealing with the carb portion for the filter, you need a large open end on the carb fuel filter housing, (it has 6 wrench flats, metal fuel line threads into it, it actually threads into the carb body) I believe it's 1", but in any case, you just need to hold the filter housing steady while you try and remove the fuel line. If the fuel line is stuck (which it typically is) you can let the fuel filter housing turn if you need a bit more give, but don't thread it in any further, only let it thread out, if that makes sense. Once you get the fuel line off, then you remove the filter housing, pull the old filter out, and replace. Take original to store with you to ensure new filter is identical to the old. Be VERy careful threading the filter housing back into the carb. For some reason people screw this up quite often (enough that there is a repair kit for the problem) even though it's not hard. It should thread in by hand easily, and just needs to be snugged up to seal. Believe it even uses a seal around the outside edge, replace it if it does. The carb body is soft, this is why you need to be careful trying to put the filter housing back on.

This is all assuming a stock, unmolested setup as it came from the factory.
 
hey man THANKS for the info. I was going to go after work today and pick up a sending unit at napa. Mine worked fine before I removed the tank so I will just leave it in. But I do want to take a wire wheel to my tank so I can paint it. Will it hurt anything inside the tank if I tip it up and poor out the gas through the fill nosle?
 
No, you can tip it over ok.

If I were you, I'd consider pulling the sending unit before tipping it over, make sure there isn't a ton of junk on the bottom of the tank, and that the sock filter is in good shape. It may work fine now, but no better time to inspect to ensure it doesn't cause problems later. There is a large rubber o-ring underneath the sender, I've re-used numerous of those with little problem, not like they typically actually have to hold fuel. They are protected from sunlight and don't get hot, so always seem to be in perfect shape. Usually a bunch of dirt where the seal rides, so it pays to take it slow and easy when removing the sender, to try and keep as much of that out of the tank as possible.

If it's got anything more than surface rust, you may consider getting a new tank. The tanks aren't thick metal, when they start pitting pinhole leaks aren't far away.
 
Hey thanks again for the info. I was looking at the sending unit and it looked like to remove it you grap the 2 "ears" and turn. Is it one of those deals were you turn it 90 or 180 degrees, and then lift it straight out?
 
Not looking at one right now, so this is best recollection...there are at least two "tabs" on the lock ring. Hammer those counterclockwise, (beware of sparks:)) and the lock ring will line up with a wider area on the outer ring, and the sending unit will lift out. Usually helps to hit the locking ring tabs alternately, so it spins smoothly instead of getting cocked as it turns. Once the lock ring is free, you tend to notice, as it's usually under some tension.

I use a screwdriver blade up against the tabs, and tap the screwdriver with the hammer.
 

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