Okiemuddog said:
The ones of you that sent him ****ty emails had better be glad it was not me, because I would had all your asses on a plate.
I unserstand this guys side and would like to apologize for the rest of CK5.com for the actions of the morons amongst us and I am sorry your post had to be in defense of yourself.
Krennen
OK. Since you have your flame suit on, I guess ill send you a little heat. First off, you better be glad it wasnt you who did it because it would be your ass on the plate. No matter which way you turn it or what excuse he gives (even if his excuse is actually what happened; i.e he didnt have any pics of his truck so he posted another similar looking vehicle) this is illegal. Yes, thats right, illegal. Look at the rules of ebay and you will see this. If someone would have reported him to ebay, then ebay could have taken a range of actions against him. According to ebay these actions could include, "listing cancellation, limits on account priveleges, account supervision, forefit of ebay fees on cancelled items, and/or law enforcement notification." That came directly from ebay. Hmmm. Law enforcement notification. Whos ass would be on the plate for that??
Secondly, I do not see how you understand this guys side of the argument. What he did was wrong, fraudulent, and illegal. Period. Think about it. What if you saw the picture (which was actually Sapper's truck) and liked it so you decided to buy it. You pay him, then go to pick up the truck, and find out that it isnt like the picture you saw. Wouldnt you be a little pissed? I know I would. The death threats (which may or may not be true) were uncalled for. But even if someone did send him one, it doesnt justify or make his actions any more right. I am not at all sorry that his post had to be in defense of himself. If it wasnt, then something would be a little wrong. People do this on ebay and get away with it all the time. I can almost guarantee that if someone from ck5 wouldnt have seen those pics, they would have remained there until the end of the auction.
With all of this in mind, I have seen Paul's (Sapper) truck in person and have wheeled with him before. He is a great guy and his truck is awesome. The other guys truck doesnt even deserve to be on the same page (legally or illegally in this case). The fact that you are standing up for the guy kind of scares me. I wonder what people are thinking when they stand up for someone who is trying to defraud people into buying their junk.
And for the guy who posted this on ebay I have something to say to you too. I really hope that someone who is protecting our country knows the difference between what is right and what is wrong. This was wrong in all aspects. It also seems fishy that you say you really love ck5 but you arent even a paying member. If you really are as devout to ck5 and love it as much as you say, then why dont you "pay up sucker" and become a real member? And dont use the excuse that you dont have the $25 it takes to become a full member, because I know how much dynamat costs.
-Harrison