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TBI from 350 onto 454

Discussion in 'The Injection Section' started by mrk5, Oct 7, 2016.

  1. mrk5

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    I picked up a good deal on a 454 from an 85 k30 so it's carb'd. I don't plan on modding the motor, just run as is. I would like to use the TBI from my 350 in the 89. Here's some of what i know (or at least think I know) and some questions I have:

    1. I would need big block injectors.
    2. Will the distributor from the TBI350 work? (I was thinking I had read a 454 & 350 use the same.)
    3. Would it be better to find a 454 TBI intake or can I get away with an adapter for the carb intake?
    4. I assume I need a chip for the ECM. In the little bit of research I've done it seems the 454TBI used the 7747 computer but because my 350TBI is in a 1ton it uses the 8747 computer. Can I get a chip for the 8747 that will work with a 454? Just contact a place that burns custom chips?
    5. Any other thoughts?
    Thanks in advance for any help.
     
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    Yes

    Yes

    The 4 barrel aftermarket intakes are more efficient. Might research it, but I'd likely plate an aftermarket intake. Consider a spacer
    Martin and the gang know more about BBC stuff @82355 @80' 427 @skunked

    I have the inj and 7060 computer off of a BBC

    Might look for a 7747 ECM while I'm in the yard today...
    Help a guy out, I'm looking for a 203 w/ adapter off a 465
     
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    Okay. Unfortunately square bodies are getting to be uncommon in the pick n pull up here but I'll keep an eye out.

    I do think it looks like the throttle body itself is different for the BBC.

    Apparently 454 TBI used a 4-barrel intake with adapter from the factory.

    Depending how hard it is to find a big block throttle body, maybe FiTech is the way to go. Especially if I have to buy a new throttle body.
     
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    I have the BBC throttle body with injectors
     
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    Interesting
     
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    Very interesting. I need to call and chat with you. Or you can come hang out with me at Liam's game in Westminster this morning. LOL
     
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    Never know, I like football. Was going to get the taillight and scout the yard.

    What time?
     
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    Thanks to bent72 for coming to watch football with me and bringing a BBC throttle body!
     
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    Was just glad that kid was okay. He laid there a good long time.
     
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    Liam said it was a concussion thing. I'm guessing he must have been knocked out for bit.
     
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    Found this on Howell's site:

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    8747 like I have now but for 454, so that looks like it should be easy to put TBI on the 454.
     
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    Not a bad price really. I didn't find the ones you needed on the yard
     
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    So a little more researching and I find the difference between 7747 and 8747 is the latter doesn't have a knock sensor. So if I want to use that computer above I need to add wiring for the knock sensor. Or a get a new wiring harness which I'd kinda like to do since the previous owner butchered the one I have now in a few places. Aside from that the pin out is the same.

    The timing curve in the 8747 is more conservative because it doesn't have a knock sensor.

    Interesting thing is I could have sworn my 350 in the truck now has a knock sensor. But I've also long suspected the motor has been swapped at some point in its life.
     
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    Hmm, you want that. Especially up here.

    Explains some of the power loss on that wheezy 350. So let's find a 7747.
    @az_762_nato feel like tuning a BBC?
     
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    Remember, that computer I posted has knock sensor capability. However I was reading threads that 8747 PROM couldn't be burned because some needed info isn't available. Our at least it wasn't, may have changed. With the 5.3/6.0 popularity there's not much current TBI mod talk these days.
     
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    If you want to steal it for a while I have the info on my Howell wiring harness and 7747 computer that probably talks about that stuff.

    When I did the swap I also found the Howell Tech people were knowledgeable and helpful for the couple questions I had.
     
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    I gotta come clean here and confess I'm also strongly considering a FiTech or Holley Sniper setup. Obviously price is a huge consideration there.
     
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    the one thing I really like about these other systems is their ability to adapt to engine mods or a completely different engine i.e. going from a sbc to a bbc.
     

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