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Knock is just as bad. It will start and drive around but yeesh it's loud.
Seen a lot of 4.8/5.3 swaps, and I thought about it. Heck I even seen I person with a small turbo on a 4.0.. the thing sounded like a Cummins..
I did see where some one had swapped a 6.2 into a WJ, I thought it could make for a more fuel efficient ride. The 4.0's aren't known to be very fuel friendly.
Ultimately it will come down to what can be done faster to get it on the road.
 
shady said:
Extra fuel capacity is more of an issue when your mpg number is in the low single digits lol
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While we might heckle you for stopping for fuel every hundred miles, you're probably never more than thirty miles from fuel. It's really not that big of a deal, it just means diverting to every...single...town near the route.

Actually, now that I think this through...

Scratch that, you should probably add two or three extra tanks so I don't spend half my trip sitting at the Seney gas station watching everyone else fill up. Again... :rolleyes:

:haha:

;)
 
shady said:
Extra fuel capacity is more of an issue when your mpg number is in the low single digits lol
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So you're bringing an armored vehicle? A hovercraft? Why not make it run right first and then look into fuel capacity?

When Dave came on the trip he was at maybe 7MPG and 20 gallon cell so we got creative with extra fuel stops. That wasn't too bad with 3 rigs and a loose schedule, but it would be restrictive on a big trip. Man, every time you let 40 people and 4 dogs out of the vehicles you just lost an hour.

It's generally expected everybody can do 150-200 miles.
 
6-7 might be in line with what it's getting. Not sure. I wouldn't bet a dollar even that it's more than that though lol
 
shady said:
6-7 might be in line with what it's getting. Not sure. I wouldn't bet a dollar even that it's more than that though lol
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I'm not getting much better mileage. It has not deterred me from any fun. I've carried jerry cans and on some of the longer trips, I've used them. When CaptRon and I decided to do the Rimrocker trail on the way to Blazer Bash last year I planned on at least one can for the just in case factor. Rimrocker is 160 miles of dirt with only one spot for fuel about 50 miles in. We both filled up a jerry can in Montrose at the start of the trail along with a full tank of fuel. Even at the worst of 10mpg on a full tank, I've got 300 miles of range on the tank alone. So by the math, I knew I shouldn't need the extra fuel, but I have the can and the way to carry it so I brought it as a just in case. If we make a wrong turn, get stuck, or have some other kind of problem having extra fuel could be very needed. As it stood we made it to Moab without using the extra fuel and topped off fuel again once we got into town.

Best thing I can suggest is know the truck well enough to understand what it gets for mileage on the highway and out in the boonies in 4wd at lower speeds. Factor the worst case mileage and plan from there. 7mpg on say a 20 gallon tank still nets 140 mile range. Not great but if fuel could be had every 30 miles or so, it's not a big deal to have the low range. Adding capacity in the form of a bigger tank won't hurt other than what it takes to get one in. Jerry cans work just fine too. Don't let it hold back the adventure of traveling. So you stop a little more often. Big deal. Just get out there.
 
Monty5150 said:
The wagon is awesome and +10 points for the wood grain.
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It is different, that's for sure. I understand that styles change every few years, but I really don't understand why wagons went out of style. The body style is more versatile than almost anything on the road today, without sacrificing ride quality or having the mileage hit of a truck chassis. I guess nobody wants that type of utilitarian vehicle anymore? This one was marketed as a luxury car, completely missing out on what the car is good at.

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campfire said:
It is different, that's for sure. I understand that styles change every few years, but I really don't understand why wagons went out of style. The body style is more versatile than almost anything on the road today, without sacrificing ride quality or having the mileage hit of a truck chassis. I guess nobody wants that type of utilitarian vehicle anymore? This one was marketed as a luxury car, completely missing out on what the car is good at.

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The minivan was first then followed by the suv craze.
That's what killed the station wagon.
I grew up in a station wagon and my 3rd car was a station wagon, it was also my first truck, hauling materials to my construction jobs.
But then I got a full size van and a suburban and I traded my station wagon for a 74 k5.
 
imiceman44 said:
The minivan was first then followed by the suv craze.
That's what killed the station wagon.
I grew up in a station wagon and my 3rd car was a station wagon, it was also my first truck, hauling materials to my construction jobs.
But then I got a full size van and a suburban and I traded my station wagon for a 74 k5.
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I understand that crazes come and go, and nobody really wants to drive the same style that his mom drove (hence the dramatic drop in minivan sales, when they used to be cool cars). But neither a minivan nor any of the SUV models I've seen can quite fill the niche of this body style.
 
The Buick had an automatic air leveling suspension system. I'd rock it all day long. Side point, my old burbs are titled as station wagons.
 
I'd be willing to take on the fight that most suv's and cuv's crossover whatever the hell they call them... Are still wagons, like it or not. And more power to the wagon!!
 
campfire said:
I'm not hoping to need a new starter (ever again), but I'm happy to collect the recommendation now. Just in case.

Do you remember the brand, and why you thought it produced quality products?
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Powermaster 9052 or ACDELCO are the only starter I will get in 12v
 
I had planned on troubleshooting my fuel system today. Tropical weather had other plans.
Got my new turbo (yay!) So I'm organizing the parts to see what's missing before the install. Really thinking about installing cylinder studs while it's sitting.

Of course, I can pick up a reman Navistar Optimizer for $5600 few hours from here due to the mileage...gotta credit card tempting the hell out of me....:whistle:

Of course, I have no way of knowing if it's the original motor, so we'll see.
 
Big Ray said:
I had planned on troubleshooting my fuel system today. Tropical weather had other plans.
Got my new turbo (yay!) So I'm organizing the parts to see what's missing before the install. Really thinking about installing cylinder studs while it's sitting.

Of course, I can pick up a reman Navistar Optimizer for $5600 few hours from here due to the mileage...gotta credit card tempting the hell out of me....:whistle:

Of course, I have no way of knowing if it's the original motor, so we'll see.
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You're talking to the wrong guy. I don't have $5600 worth of total equity in this truck, even if you count up all the mods (drivetrain, turbocharger, axles, suspension, etc). No way am I going to invest that much into just the engine. Once you start dropping large amounts of money, trail riding gets a lot less fun. "Oh, no, I might scrape my classic restomod project on a rock or hit a tree!" It changes the way you drive.

Having a beater rig is much better for my purposes. I'm not trying to smash it, nor am I reckless with it. But if I do wreck, I can simply buy another rig of some kind.

Same reason I haven't ever wanted to redo the previous owner's crummy paint job. Yes, it's ugly. But this way I'm not bothered by tree branch pinstriping. I can just drive.

Unlike this guy, who's afraid to leave the pavement:

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