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the new long term project THE ROLLING TANK

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so I have known of this trailer since around 1996ish . it has been sitting since before i learned of it then .

10 or so years ago he moved it to other farm land he used and put a portable food freezer on it and tarped it . well he never used it and the tarp rotted away and now the freezer unit is junk . ( got to get it over to farm for him to scrap it )

so what i have is a 18ft flatbed gooseneck trailer . the main beams for the frame are 12" tall x 4" wide . WOW !

it has home made or early production axles of some kind under it . there what looks to be ford 1ton full floater rear ends cut from the centers and a tube slid over them and welded up . the tube has a filler hole / plug in the middle also . i thinking ford by the style of backing plate looks bendix brake like i use to do a lot of work on .

the brakes are vac/hydro setup ? ? ? ha ha ha . that's going and swaping to a bendix electric/hydro unit .

then tires are 12-16.5 old stuff and looks to be my best bet is 235/75/17.5 conversion up to over the old . this gets me a 31" tire and 6k lbs per tire weight .

then blast / paint the old girl to make here look new again .

last will be a rewire and new lights .

the best part of the whole trailer ............ its all ready to be a dump just needs the ram/pump unit . its already hinged at the back . :thumb:

will get better pics soon .

few for now . used friends truck to drag it out and home .

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so I been doing my homework .

turns out I got my info wrong . . . she is a 20ft bed NOT 18ft . :grin:

frame is the 12x4 inch with 3/16 inch thickness. just over 18ft main rail length x2 1 per side .

header / 1st crossmember is 10 inch tall C-channel . then 5ft to next that's 1/2 of the 12 inch beam for a letter T . then 4ft to another T cross . that goes 1ft 6 inch to a 6 inch C-channel cross at the first point of suspension mount. then 32 inch another 6 inch C . then last 6 inch C crossmeber. end of the line next is 40.5 inch to end and 5 inch C-channel. butted to the back of that is a 5 inch tall x 3.5 inch wide angle iron that is set on tall to match up to the C-channel . this also is the mounting point for the dump hinge pin of about 2inch dia .

the upright to the gooseneck tongue is 54.5 inch tall and made of the 12x4 inch I-beam . it has a crossmember up top that's the same 12x4 inch I-beam .

this then goes to the tongue for the gooseneck . its 94 inch from front face of upright to ball socket center . this also is 12x4 inch I-beam .

this to me add's up to 1 BEEFY trailer . I hope Monday I can get the stuff off the bed and clean it up a little and get safer roller tires on so I can go get this on a scale to determine the true empty weight at this point in time.
 
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so called dmv for my state . seems straight forward to get inspected / title with vin # .

called dexter axle and chatted with them . all good there for built to spec pair of axles with springs and hangers . newer slipper style leafs in 2.5 or 3 inch width over the 1.75 I have now.

tried to swap some other 8 lug tire/rims on for better roll around . that didn't work at all. . . . even the ford ( biggest hub center ) rims didn't slide over .

so will have to get rim/tires then do measurments for backspace / hub face width and order axles .

all in baby steps at this point .

question tho to you guys . this big what would you do ?

electric trailer brakes ?

or

hydro trailer brakes with pump unit ?

also chatted with a BIG name brand trailer maker and un official its in the 18k-20k range by the size of beams and way built .
 
what's the advantage of hydro? I've only had electric on all my trailers.
 
I wonder how much it weighs?

I think I would go elec brakes. My old work had a trailer with a hydro surge control on the tongue, never seemed to work worth a :poo: Of coarse that was twenty plus years ago and I'm sure tech has improved since then.
 
hydro brakes now are run with a pump and 98% of all current brake controlers feed it .

empty weight at least 6500lbs I am thinking by talking to guys with trailers close to it .
 
so whats the advantage? cost? less maintenance? performance/durability?
 
I gotcha. Just seemed like overkill, wasn't sure what the use for it would be.

Martin
 
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so whats the advantage? cost? less maintenance? performance/durability?
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From what I was just read about them....They are the only way to go if your running disc brakes and the best way to go with drum brakes. The cost is going to be more but they are a much smoother engagement and disengagement. Unlike electric which are basically just on or off giving you that jerking feeling. Maintenance looks to be the same, but if your running disc it would much easier to work on compared to drums.
 
That's a heavy trailer. Kinda looks like it may have been for moving construction equipment or maybe forklifts or something.
 
that back hinge unit looks like the original proto type of a ord flip kit we all buy these days . :grin:

and last pic is how you more a gooseneck around with out a gooseneck hitch . . . :popcorn:
 
That is one beefy damn trailer. Those framerails are huge! You find any plates on it stating weight ratings?
 
rails are 12x4x3/16 I-beam

no tags was local made 25+years ago . sat most its life .

home made axles . so new dextor will be in the works . thinking a nice big pair of 10k axles.
 
back then I don't think they were thinking drw much .

my plan is 17.5 trailer tires rated @ 6200lb per and rims are 6000 per . so with 12k lbs per tire/rim set on a 10k axle we should be good .

that's my plan atleast .
 
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