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The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)

neat trip, thanks for the pics/write up... :waytogo:

Thanks!!

Yup! Nailed it! Good for you for being able to do what you guys can. :waytogo:
And thanks for the trips! :popcorn:

Thanks!!

I see you managed to hide a winch up front. Nice.

DW

Thanks. Yeah, I guess I only mentioned picking it up and nothing about the joys of installation. I have some pics of that project that I can post up.

Hey Nick what a cool trip(s)....I was in awe when I rode around in AZ and NV a couple years ago...so much different than MI. any issues at all with the Cummins and or swap, or is it performing flawlessly as we all dream!

Thanks Dave. All of the major issues with the motor have been covered here. A couple doozies, but nothing that turned out to be catastrophic. In hind sight, most would have been avoidable if I had re-gasketed the whole motor before putting it back into service. Everything looked great in and on the motor, so I had no visual clues to suspect any of the components. Live and learn I guess. All-in-all, I have been very pleased with the swap. For what we do, it has been an excellent setup.
 
Thanks!!





Thanks Dave. All of the major issues with the motor have been covered here. A couple doozies, but nothing that turned out to be catastrophic. In hind sight, most would have been avoidable if I had re-gasketed the whole motor before putting it back into service. Everything looked great in and on the motor, so I had no visual clues to suspect any of the components. Live and learn I guess. All-in-all, I have been very pleased with the swap. For what we do, it has been an excellent setup.

I need to refresh myself on this build again, evidently I'm not retaining the issues you talk about...and I need to learn!!
But I plan on doing that very thing with mine...I'll trial fit everything, getting it all sorted out then tear the truck down for body/paintwork and build the trans and mod the engine a bit!
 
At the end of October another wilderness first aid training deal was arranged. This time it was up north of Sedona overlooking the valley to the south.

A view from camp when we arrived:

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Shortly after we arrived, we split up into groups. One group:

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The other group:

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Shortly after we began, we were visited by the Forest Service's finest:

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It seems we weren't following one of the new Forest Service rules to a "T". Meh.

So we learned all kinds of different things that need to be known in a backcountry emergency situation. It actually illustrates what can't be done very well and very often the best option is to secure the injured and transport to a real medical facility. A lot of what is covered is how to prepare the injured for transport and how to diagnose some of the more common conditions that can arise in the wilderness--like dehydration.

After dinner, we were treated to a fire starting demonstration. This guy can start a fire with two sticks and a shoelace faster than I can start one with a Bic:

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The next morning we packed up and a few of us traveled down the trail a ways to a place where we could park and proceeded to hike out to a point to find an airplane crash site. A view on the way out:

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The site is the final resting place of a Stinson Reliant SR-9C that belonged to and was piloted by Gerald Vultee and his wife Sylvia was his only passenger. Unfortunately, they both perished in the crash. There is a great article about the crash here: http://verdenews.com/main.asp?SectionID=74&SubsectionID=114&ArticleID=43609 and of course there is the usual Wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vultee_Aircraft . The Wiki is more about the Vultee Company, but it has a good timeline of the company and who bought and sold it throughout the years.

Most of the aircraft is gone having been salvaged after the crash and scrappers over time reducing the total amount of remains to nearly nothing, but still pretty good compared to many wreck sites throughout the state/southwest. There are, however, still some pieces of the airframe still visible.

The tail section/elevator/rear wheel mounting:

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A piece of exhaust manifold with a chunk of engine exhaust port on it:

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A general overview of the site:

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We found some local wildlife on the hike out; the infamous horny toad:

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A look back over to where we camped. We were right above the white cliff off to the right:

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All in all it was a good trip. Learning about how to keep people alive in emergency situations is a very good thing to know. Seeing a crash site and learning some history about it was right up my alley. I'm not much on hiking, but in the end it was well worth the effort.
 
I need to refresh myself on this build again, evidently I'm not retaining the issues you talk about...and I need to learn!!
But I plan on doing that very thing with mine...I'll trial fit everything, getting it all sorted out then tear the truck down for body/paintwork and build the trans and mod the engine a bit!

A lot of guys have had no problems throwing an old motor in and using it, but if I had it to do again, I would reseal the whole thing on a stand if for no other reason than it is so much easier than doing it in-frame. Ugh.

Two main issues as I recall. Head gasket and something to do with the in engine oil cooler.

I think those two were the biggest ones. If there are more, they are covered in here somewhere.
 
That, is Focking so pretty! I feel like you could die a happy man with that as your last sight.
 
A lot of guys have had no problems throwing an old motor in and using it, but if I had it to do again, I would reseal the whole thing on a stand if for no other reason than it is so much easier than doing it in-frame. Ugh.



I think those two were the biggest ones. If there are more, they are covered in here somewhere.


Thanks...I will probably do that as well...get everything running and bugs ironed out then yank it for some upgrades/gaskets/seals!
Again; awesome pics, thanks for sharing them!
 
That, is Focking so pretty! I feel like you could die a happy man with that as your last sight.

There is a lot of great scenery out there. I tell people that there is a ton of great scenery in this state and the best scenery can only be viewed from dirt roads/trails.

Thanks...I will probably do that as well...get everything running and bugs ironed out then yank it for some upgrades/gaskets/seals!
Again; awesome pics, thanks for sharing them!

Thanks!! Glad you like them.

Just curious as to why you would make all that extra work putting it in and then taking it out?? If you are going to reseal it, do it while it's out so once it's in, it's done. Any mods you are going to do won't require engine disassembly to a point that it would need to be removed. Most mods don't require getting into the engine at all. A couple adjustments to the injection pump, maybe some injectors or a turbo. All of that stuff is external to the motor itself and can easily be done in-frame. No sense in turning the big project into a bigger project. That, and, these motors are no fun to wrestle with. I'd take a BBC swap over dealing with a Cummins on a chain ANY day.
 
full truck makeover!

building it the first time to fab everything up, then teardown to paint.
 
Yeah, not so impressed with the BFG's. I have a little over 20k on them and I'm not impressed at all with how little tread remains for an E rated tire. I don't think I'm buying any more of them.

What do you think will be your next set of tires?

And I second the tire question.
I missed that earlier. I'll cover it in an upcoming post here.

Read through this again looking for an answer to the tire question (didn't find one yet), and I noticed the antenna in this picture:

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What cool thing does that do? :popcorn:

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I saw you today, right by 51st and McDowell, I just moved out here, and you've given me tons of ideas of things to see!
 
so how about a few pics form overland expo? i know you were there, ive seen pics of your suburban there. :thumb:
 
Read through this again looking for an answer to the tire question (didn't find one yet), and I noticed the antenna in this picture:

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What cool thing does that do? :popcorn:

I haven't put together a post on the tires yet. I'm back at work now trying to make up for lost time and just finished a truck late last night so it could go on a test drive to the Pacific Coast today. No pressure to do quality work or anything. Ugh.

I saw you today, right by 51st and McDowell, I just moved out here, and you've given me tons of ideas of things to see!

We had just gotten the truck unloaded and had to head to my brother in law's place for a house warming deal. Glad you have gotten something other than boredom out of this thread!!

so how about a few pics form overland expo? i know you were there, ive seen pics of your suburban there. :thumb:

Really?? Where??

We did go. I didn't take many pics this year. I'll have to see if any are worth posting up. I took a lot last year that I guess I never posted up. No promises on time as I have a truck coming in Saturday for cooling system issues and possible fuel delivery issues that needs to be on the road back to Utah on Monday. Another several hundred mile test drive. Ugh.
 
I haven't put together a post on the tires yet. I'm back at work now trying to make up for lost time and just finished a truck late last night so it could go on a test drive to the Pacific Coast today. No pressure to do quality work or anything. Ugh.







We had just gotten the truck unloaded and had to head to my brother in law's place for a house warming deal. Glad you have gotten something other than boredom out of this thread!!







Really?? Where??



We did go. I didn't take many pics this year. I'll have to see if any are worth posting up. I took a lot last year that I guess I never posted up. No promises on time as I have a truck coming in Saturday for cooling system issues and possible fuel delivery issues that needs to be on the road back to Utah on Monday. Another several hundred mile test drive. Ugh.


You're a truck mechanic?
 
You're a truck mechanic?

I was thinking the same thing. For some reason i thought you had an office job!

Neither. No, I got smart and gave up working on trucks years ago, but a friend of mine hung a dollar bill on a stick and waved it in front of me while I was off to get me to do some light things on his truck so I took him up on his offer. Little did I know it was going to turn into heavy-line work by the time I was done, but luckily that occurred after I was back in service, so just another day at that point. The truck coming in this weekend is actually my friend that we stayed with in Sandy UT last year on our summer travels. He's in town and his truck is giving him some lip, so I'm going to try to figure out its problem so it will get him home and then on to points beyond reliably. Paying it forward a little for the help we received in CA when we had our go-round with truck issues last year. Can't leave a fellow traveler stranded (or potentially stranded).
 
Is it story/ picture time yet? :D

Yeah, I should probably get back to this thread again. I was all caught up to last November on the travels, then managed to get myself buried again. All is well with the truck though. We have been running trails every chance we get. Due to my time spent out of service this spring, there was no repeat of an epic nine state, 4500 mile odyssey, but we did do a bunch of day trips and some overnighters. One of them even required an on-trail repair :eek1:. The last trip I almost broke a rubber exhaust pipe mount :eek1:. I know, too much drama, but I gotta keep the interest up until I manage to load some more pics into the bucket.

The 42y/o truck that went to the Pacific coast on a test drive with my buddy's newly-turned 16 year old boy made it there and back with no issues and the S10 that went on a test drive to Sandy UT made it there and then on to somewhere in Missouri (a couple times) with a gross combined weight of truck and trailer of over 6200lbs (:eek1:) with no problems whatsoever.

No promises, but the humidity has rolled into town, so being outside is not as nice as being in the house, so I'll try and get something that is a little more fun to look at posted up here before too long.
 
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