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The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)

It is illegal to drive a tractor on the freeway in Idaho. But sometimes farmers will risk the $1000 fine if it means 15 minutes on the freeway or 2 hours on back roads.

And sometimes it does mean that.

Although you can get permits to do it and sometimes you have to do it because of bridges. Nothing like having a hundred or so mid day drivers pissed off at you cause you closed the westbound lanes to get your harvester with a 26" wide header across a bridge

If you like rocks stop by my house sometime and we will head out to craters of the moon or if a buddy is around I can have him take you out to some lava tubes.

I am only 15 minutes off I-15 and am usually home.

Besides that I can take you to a semi famous burger place ( the orginal) Big Judds in Archer. 1 lb burgers ( if its a single) and actually pretty darn good, great fries too. Its definitely not where or what you expect it to be.

Teton Dam site is only an about 45 minutes from my house.


That cut between Utah and AZ there is killer isn't it. Always try to hit that during the day
 
It is illegal to drive a tractor on the freeway in Idaho. But sometimes farmers will risk the $1000 fine if it means 15 minutes on the freeway or 2 hours on back roads.

And sometimes it does mean that.

Although you can get permits to do it and sometimes you have to do it because of bridges. Nothing like having a hundred or so mid day drivers pissed off at you cause you closed the westbound lanes to get your harvester with a 26" wide header across a bridge

Ok, that makes more sense.

If you like rocks stop by my house sometime and we will head out to craters of the moon or if a buddy is around I can have him take you out to some lava tubes.

I am only 15 minutes off I-15 and am usually home.

Besides that I can take you to a semi famous burger place ( the orginal) Big Judds in Archer. 1 lb burgers ( if its a single) and actually pretty darn good, great fries too. Its definitely not where or what you expect it to be.

Teton Dam site is only an about 45 minutes from my house.

Sounds like some good stuff there. Definitely on the list for next time.

That cut between Utah and AZ there is killer isn't it. Always try to hit that during the day

It is. Very unexpected, considering the general terrain leading up to it from the south.
 
awesome update man, the gorge there after mesquite on I-15 is pretty cool, been driving through there all my life. someday i'll get up to idaho, in my own suburban.
 
That was a jack leg drill. If you hit Silverton just right in the summer they have an annual event were in people compete using rail attached mucking machines and jack leg drills......

On a side note...af the last drive i took the new dodge to colorado springs...i made an appearance at Hefty Fab works...rear bumper is on order :0).

DW
 
So we got up the next morning and went back over the hill into Butte to pick up some Starbucks (again, not for me). I had to do some repairs to the truck so I found a cheezy auto parts chain store to buy some parts. The rain we traveled in yesterday had informed me that my 6 month old wiper blades were no longer effective in removing rain from the windshield. It would seem wiper blades would last indefinitely in an area that gets no rain (like PHX), but the sun is what kills them. Now six months is not normal, they usually last longer than that, but I'm a little too far away to try to warranty them. Anyways, I buy some wiper blades and use my Leatherman to aid in the installation (first vehicular repair of the trip). So the truck has wiper blades that work, my wife has some form of coffee, we're good to go. Let's roll!!

So we hit the road to try to make our destination for yesterday. This leads us west out of Butte through some beautiful country. One thing that I liked about the route we took through Idaho and Montana is there are great rolling hills, mountains, valleys, praries and they are not obscured with dense forests. Now I do realize it was just the areas we were in, but it sure makes for some spectacular views.

A cool old barn next to the highway just past Anaconda:

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So we get through Missoula and head north on US93 (again). After a while we come upon Flathead Lake:

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This thing is large. It is the largest freshwater lake in the United States west of the Mississippi River. It was formed in the Rocky Mountain trench which was cut by a glacier. It has something like 190sq/mi of surface area. When traveling around it, it seems to go on forever.

Now, our destination for the day is Glacier National Park (GNP). The issue that confronts us at this point is that it is raining in GNP this day. Now I am not afraid of some rain, but heading into an unknown area, in the rain, to camp, is not rating real high on the likely-success-o-meter. Ugh. What to do?? Now if we were already there with camp already set up, some rain would be a non-issue, but I really don't like setting up camp in the rain if I can avoid it because in order to flip the truck from travel to camp mode, most everything from the back has to go to the front and bedding has to be setup etc. Not fun to do in the rain especially when it almost has to be done outside the truck.

We rolled into Kalispell and weighed our options and decided we'd wait out the rain in Kalispell, get a room for the night, and head into Glacier tomorrow after the rain clears out. So we found a room, did our load-in and went into town to check the place out. We got some lunch (a little late) and did some wandering around. Found some neat places and came back into town for some dinner. We went back to the room and got a good night's sleep. We woke up in the morning to, yep, you guessed it, rain. More rain. Ugh. Well, we can't bag a whole day because of rain so we pressed on. We did our load out, found some mom-n-pop coffee joint and we were on our way.

A little while later we found ourselves here:

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Ironically, I had been running with the guy getting the ticket a for several miles, but he put the moves on a slower vehicle that I didn't feel like passing, just in time to be seen by the sheriff. So we got into the park and took a quick spin up to the north through an area that burned recently. We checked a couple spots out then headed back down and went through one of the visitor centers. We then took some pictures at Lake McDonald before heading up Going To The Sun Road (GTTSR). Now GTTSR is rarely open before the middle/end of June due to the heavy snows that must be cleared at higher elevations. I had been keeping tabs on the plowing status while on our way up to Glacier and found that it had opened two days before we got there. Woo-Hoo!! Something went right for a change!! Well, yes, it did, but it is still raining. Lake McDonald is another long lake. It has to be somewhere between 30-35mi long. After passing it we found McDonald Creek, a tributary waterway to the lake. Lots of water flowing down the creek:

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This is one of the red shuttle buses manufactured by White Motor Company back in the 1930's that ferry people along GTTSR:

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(Information about the buses from a Ford Press Release) Ford Motor Company’s leadership in alternative fuel vehicles is being put to use to restore one of the oldest traditions in America’s National Parks. After 18 months of renovation, Ford will deliver Glacier National Park's famous fleet of Red Buses back to the park in Montana on June 8.

The fleet of 33 Red Buses now runs on clean-burning LPG (propane) and is 93 percent cleaner than the original buses that were introduced in the park back in the 1930s.

Over time, the buses became part of the fabric of Glacier’s lore. The canvas-topped 17-passenger buses carried sightseers back and forth across the Continental Divide for over six decades. Then, in 1999, concerns about vehicle fatigue forced the Red Buses into retirement.

As part of its commitment as a Proud Partner of America’s National Parks, Ford undertook the task of refurbishing the buses back in 2000. TDM of Livonia, Mich., was contracted to work with Ford engineers and perform the restoration.

“Restoring the Red Buses has been a bigger challenge than any of us imagined, but it has also been a labor of love to those involved,” said Bruce Gordon, director of Ford’s Alternative Fuel Vehicles. “We worked diligently to maintain the historic integrity of the buses and applied Ford’s and TDM's expertise in alternative fuel vehicles and safety.”

Key changes made to the Red Buses include:
Powertrain/Fuel System – The original carbureted gasoline engine was removed and replaced with a new fuel-injected 5.4L bi-fuel engine, capable of running on either gasoline or LPG (propane). An all-new exhaust system also was provided.
Chassis – The original chassis was removed and replaced with an E-450 chassis modified to fit the Red Bus body.
Brakes – The brake system was replaced with a production 4-wheel disc ABS system.
Windows and Lights – All windows were replaced with safety glass and external lights were replaced or repaired and brought up to current standards.

Along with the new technology, extreme care was taken to maintain the charm and historic integrity of the buses. Technology and safety were key, but comfort also was important. Examples include:

Body – The original body of the Red Bus was carefully removed from the chassis. Damaged areas were repaired, cleaned and repainted in the original color scheme. New sheet metal or fiberglass components were blended into the vehicle where needed, such as the fender wells and the rear door. In addition, all the door latches were replaced and the plywood floors were replaced with composite aluminum sheeting.
Seating – All passenger and driver seats were refurbished with new comfortable fire-retardant material. New padding was added to the handrails on the seat backs.
Running Boards – Running boards were replaced, but remain consistent with the original design.
Ornamentation – When possible, original ornamentation was refurbished. When replacement was needed, it was done with component designs consistent with the original.

In addition, Ford added new public address systems to all the buses, and retained the original vehicle numbering system.

Ford also is committed to supporting infrastructure for Alternative Fuel Vehicles. As part of the Red Bus project, Ford helped fund two LPG fueling stations at the park. One is located at West Glacier and will be used primarily to fuel the Red Bus, while the second is located in East Glacier. Both stations will be available for use by other propane vehicles as well.

“The Red Bus project is Ford's premiere project as a Proud Partner of America's National Parks,” said Gordon. “We want to provide innovative transportation and environmental solutions that enable visitors to enjoy National Parks, as well as preserve their beauty.”


There is no shortage of Kodak moments in this park:

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This is what we were dealing with in traversing the park in the rain:

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Tons of beautiful scenery obscured by tons of clouds. Now this issue can be viewed as both good and bad. Good, in that the colors are ridiculously lush with contrast because of the rain, and bad that they are often obscured by clouds. That nets us with a big woo-hoo, immediately followed by a big D'oh!!

We are traveling through an enormous glacial valley with several hanging valleys along the upper edges of it, but the hanging valleys are obscured by clouds. D'oh!!

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Still lots of scenery to absorb:

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There are many waterfalls on the route:

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More scenery with the ever-present cloud cover:

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More spectacular scenery (wonder what's hiding behind those clouds....)

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In this pic we are next to the weeping wall (not in the pic--its water flowing down the wall next to the road) with the three arches off to the 1 o'clock area. The three arches were constructed to deal with one of the MANY obstacles involved in building a road through this terrain.

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So we go up and up and up some more. It looks like it is getting colder up her--and right about now we can't see jack because we are IN the clouds. Swell.

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Little bit of snow left on the ground up here:

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So it's all down hill after this (literally). As we pass Saint Mary Lake the rain lets up.

At one of the many turnouts along Saint Mary Lake looking back up the hill: (one can almost make out the HD DIY front diff cover I installed while doing all of my steering work/upgrades--almost...)

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We get down to the Saint Mary Lake visitor center and plan our next move. Any move we make involves leaving the park and re-entering from another point.

On our way our of the park I stop for a gratuitous truck pic: (I forget the exact number, but I *think* we are about 30ish miles from the Canadian border at this point)

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So in the end, we traveled 1350 miles to visit a park that I have been looking forward to seeing for over twenty years and having most of it covered in clouds. Beautiful scenery?? Definitely, but only seeing the lower half of it and knowing what we were missing above it was a little more than disappointing. Obviously there is nothing we could do about it. It is just part of rolling the dice while traveling. Sometimes you hit a home run, sometimes it's just a single. I think we scored a single with two strikes and two outs.

So, where do we go from here?? Do we do the south route around the lower end of the park?? Do we head up to the Many Glacier entrance and take another swing at it?? Do we bag it all together?? Hmm, we'll have to ponder this for a moment and get back with you later....
 
That some beautiful scenery, both in spite of and because of the clouds, and an area I would like to hit as well at some point. Unfortunately that will require a lot on my part, but now that you brought it up I will have to see if the wife and I can plan a trip up there at some point.

Keep the pics coming, I'm loving seeing your travels.
 
That some beautiful scenery, both in spite of and because of the clouds, and an area I would like to hit as well at some point. Unfortunately that will require a lot on my part, but now that you brought it up I will have to see if the wife and I can plan a trip up there at some point.

Well it's only a day's drive for you, but it's worth the three days it took for me (it would be worth four days driving if it wasn't raining.....:doah: )

Keep the pics coming, I'm loving seeing your travels.

Thanks!! I'm glad you enjoy them :thumb: .
 
I have no doubt it would be worth the drive, it is just so hard to plan for doing things like that. I pretty much need to basically create a kitty to keep some cash in and decide at the last minute to make the trip. I have been trying to get into a position to do that, it just isn't easy. Until then, I will continue to live vicariously through yours, and others travels.
 
that could be more snow than I've seen there on the 4th of July (our traditional GNP day).

that waterfall is Bird Woman Falls

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you gotta watch the locals. I caught this one casing my ride...

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Loving this trip, thanks for sharing. I can't wait for more.
 
Very awesome update. Chain man is very cool.

It is way cool!! I took a bunch of pics of it, but when I go through the thousands I took, I have to really choose which ones to load and post. The chain man's boots are made of chain with all of the negative space in the chain filled in with a welder and ground down. I wonder how much the thing weighs....

awesome update man, the gorge there after mesquite on I-15 is pretty cool, been driving through there all my life. someday i'll get up to idaho, in my own suburban.

Thanks!! We ran I-15 from Vegas to Butte and the whole thing has some great scenery on it.

That was a jack leg drill. If you hit Silverton just right in the summer they have an annual event were in people compete using rail attached mucking machines and jack leg drills......

Do they do the competition in a mine or something?? Wondering how they could do something like that in the street or in town.

On a side note...af the last drive i took the new dodge to colorado springs...i made an appearance at Hefty Fab works...rear bumper is on order :0).

DW

For the K5?? Send me some pics.

I have no doubt it would be worth the drive, it is just so hard to plan for doing things like that. I pretty much need to basically create a kitty to keep some cash in and decide at the last minute to make the trip. I have been trying to get into a position to do that, it just isn't easy. Until then, I will continue to live vicariously through yours, and others travels.

Glad to have you along for the ride then.

that could be more snow than I've seen there on the 4th of July (our traditional GNP day).

We were there about a week before 04 JUL.

that waterfall is Bird Woman Falls

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Wish the scenery would have been that clear when we were there....:doah:

you gotta watch the locals. I caught this one casing my ride...

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We were in Rocky Mountain national Park about fifteen years ago and a marmot came up and bit the toe of my boot. Wildlife thugs I tell you.

Loving this trip, thanks for sharing. I can't wait for more.

Thanks!!
 
So we have to decide what to do now. We looked back to from where we came and the clouds are still dark and ominous (and leaking water). We were going to do the south route that skirts the southern edge of the park and end up back by Kalispell, but we already knew what we were going to net by doing that. The clouds to the northwest looked just as ominous, so heading up to the Many Glaciers entrance was another non-starter for us. Well, it looks like the best option is to cut our losses and head on down the road. To say it was disappointing would be quite an understatement, but we can't start crying just yet. So we pull out a map and get to looking at the best possible option for a destination and we settle on Helena MT. So we point the truck in the general direction, spool up the turbo and away we go.

Bye, bye, Glacier <sniff>

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Big Sky country. Definitely. It is rather amazing how so much of nothing can be so beautiful:

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I think someone had to use the can so we found ourselves in the thriving metropolis of Dutton, MT. Kind of a neat little(!!) town. They even had an F104 on a stick in the school yard. Can't be all bad. I decided to fuel while we were there so we found the CO-OP (kind of hard to miss) and filled the truck and drained the passengers:

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The Mighty Missouri River: (Well, not so mighty yet, but it ends up being really big down stream)

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Not something you see everyday:

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So we got into Helena and found a room. Did our load-in and went to find something to eat. Found some dinner and decided to top off the truck so we could make our next destination without having to stop for fuel. While fueling a couple young locals with a later model Dodge/Cummins were fueling on the other side of the pump. They recognized something was not right about this orange Suburban next to them and struck up a conversation. They enjoyed the tour of the truck and were amazed that we had driven it from Phoenix via Glacier. I pointed out the AZ plate on it and they believed me, but were still quite surprised that we would drive an old truck that distance.

So we got back to the room and got a mediocre night's sleep. We got up in the morning and hit a Starbucks (not for me) and we were on the road heading south. Our destination for the day was:

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Yep, Jellystone National Park. When we entered I asked the ranger at the station which campground (no open range camping allowed) would have the highest probability of having sites available. He told me which one and we pretty much bee-lined it for that campground. Camp sites in the park are either first-come or reserved months in advance depending on the campground. We didn't make reservations in February, so we were rolling the dice on a site in a first-come campground. We got up to the campground and wandered around and finally(!!) found a site. We paid our money and took the ticket to mark our site. We briefly spoke with our neighbors and then headed back out into the park to see what we could see.

We hit the Norris Geyser Basin first. There are a ton of neat features in this area. This is Emerald Spring:

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Some nice generic scenery:

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The color of the algae or bacteria in the water is determined by the temperature and mineral content of the water. A single stream may be orange in one location , brown in another, green in yet another and so on.

This pic looks like it could be a satellite photo of a region, but is actually about six feet below the camera:

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The Grand Canyon of Yellowstone:

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This stream is fed by a large waterfall, but from our vantage point I wasn't able to get a very good picture of it.

On our way back to camp we came upon a local resident:

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We made it back to camp and had a nice dinner. We hung out with our neighbors who were from Canada (eh). They had a son who was about the same age as our boy so they wandered around and played well into the evening. It was a real nice time for a campground camp.

Our camp:

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So here we are, deep in the confines of Yellowstone. Stay tuned to see if we make it to our third destination or just decide to go home instead. It could be fun??
 
while in the park, i'd highly recommend seeing the Lamar Valley on the way to Cooke City, then from there go over the Beartooth Highway to Red Lodge. vistas similar to GNP. there is a fire in the area, but the highway was open last I heard.

maybe on the way back to your camp take Chief Joseph Scenic Byway to Cody Wyoming, then back to your camp spot...
 
while in the park, i'd highly recommend seeing the Lamar Valley on the way to Cooke City, then from there go over the Beartooth Highway to Red Lodge. vistas similar to GNP. there is a fire in the area, but the highway was open last I heard.

maybe on the way back to your camp take Chief Joseph Scenic Byway to Cody Wyoming, then back to your camp spot...

We didn't run Beartooth Pass. I learned about it after we got home. It looks great though. Roads that look like a bunch of "Z"s and "W"s on a map are usually great for scenery.

Super cool! How many miles would you sat it is from your place to yellow stone?

Thanks!! On a high-ball run it's probably about 1100ish miles from my place. I think we are at about 1900mi at this point in our journey with the convoluted route we took to get there.
 
So we got up the next morning and packed up camp. This was the first time using the new window coverings version 2.0 I had my mom make up for us. The first set she made with an off-white canvas (almost denim) material. While they worked great for general privacy and insulation (very important when camping in cooler/cold weather), they let any ambient light from outside in and any light from inside the truck at night, out. Also, they were very noticeable from outside the truck being white. This go around I had acquired some black colored blackout material. A thin piece of this material allows almost no light to shine through. She put this on a black backing material and sewed in a bunch of rare-earth magnets (not as easy as it sounds) around the perimeter. The result was spectacular!! There is no light passing into or out of the truck. Waking up in the morning finds only small slivers of light shining into the truck allowing sleep past the crack of dawn and total privacy. Also, with the rear windows tinted, the black material is hardly noticeable through those windows and only slightly noticeable in the non-tinted front windows. Win, win, win.

So we packed up camp, chatted with our Canuckistanian neighbors for a bit and headed out. We hit several points of interest around the park. While traveling we came upon another local resident:

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These guys are amazing. They can be found almost anywhere in the park including standing in the middle of a boiling hot sulfur mud spring area. That is one thing about the park that pictures can not convey is how much the park can stink. Sulfur gas is a byproduct of volcanic activity (Yellowstone is a massive caldera), thus everywhere you go where there is geo-thermal activity, there is the ever-present sulfur gas. At times it is so strong it can take your breath away. After a while a person can get somewhat used to it, but it is still there.

So we wandered around and down and found ourselves along with a billion other people at the Old Faithful Geyser. It is impressive and we had to see it so we could say we saw it, but the mess of people is almost more hassle than it is worth.

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So here we are at our second of three planned stops on our vacation. Our third stop is Grand Teton National Park. It is connected to the south border of Yellowstone. We are planning to drop down into Teton and camp there for the night. At this point, the delay leaving home is coming back to bite us little bit. I was hoping to be where we are a day earlier (Thursday). This is the weekend before the short work week of the fourth of July so traffic is already starting to get nuts. Teton used the same method of camping as Yellowstone, so to find out if you get a spot requires you to drive around and hope to find a spot. It's early afternoon at this point so if we drop down into Teton and don't find a camp site, we will have to leave the park to find a spot in the surrounding forest or a room in Jackson. The other issue is where we are planning on going next (decided last night) is going to require us to re-enter Yellowstone and travel through a significant chunk of it to get out on the latitude we want to run to our next destination. This does not sound like fun considering the traffic we are dealing with right now on a Friday, much less a Saturday. We decide at this point to bag Teton for another time and head out of Yellowstone. The route we take out of Yellowstone takes us around Yellowstone Lake. Beautiful.

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So we get out of the park and head down the hill into Cody, Wyoming. We find a mom-n-pop hotel and get a room--the most expensive room thus far. I ask the lady why a room in the middle of nowhere is more expensive than a room in the middle of somewhere. I learn that Cody draws many people in for their nightly rodeo, it is the home of the Wild Bill Cody museum and is the gateway to Yellowstone. Ok. So I ask the lady for a mom-n-pop restaurant recommendation and she says that Cassie's is a great place. Cool. We do a couple loads of laundry in their posh laundry room (washing machine sitting outside the office) and after that we head over to Cassie's. It turns out Cassie's is a honky tonk bar/restaurant. They had live bluegrass music too!! Come to find out the guy who runs the kitchen is a third generation butcher and his grandma makes the desserts. The waitress told us all the beef comes from twenty miles down the road. Oooh, this is getting better and better!! I don't think I have ever seen steaks this thick in a restaurant anywhere ever. Unfortunately, I'm not in a steak kind of mood. I figure I can't go wrong with a cheeseburger. I was right. Very right. I have consumed hundreds or probably thousands of burgers in my time, but if this wasn't the best it has got to be in the top three. Fantastic. While we were eating I noticed something interesting. There were probably 20 or so dudes out dancing with ladies on the dance floor and I pointed out to my wife that none of them had a cell phone on them. Kind of odd in this day and age, but cell service was so spotty in the area, a cell phone would probably be of little use anyways. I got a piece of grandma's cheesecake to go. The thing was about 2.5" thick and tasted fantastic!! It's probably a good thing I don't live there. I'd be broke and fat from eating there every day. Good stuff.

So we get up the next morning, do our load out and head into town to get some coffee (not for me) from a mom-n-pop coffee house. While she is inside I check the vitals and tire pressures to find everything is good. She comes out and were rolling. Shortly after leaving Cody, we come across something you don't see everyday--a B24 performing engine runups before takeoff. Hmmpf, didn't see that coming:

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Further down the road we see this sign:

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While seemingly interesting, I didn't really feel like heading off into the vast unknown to check it out, so I grabbed a shot while ripping down the road:

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Not too long after that we find ourselves in:

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We soon came across something that we had seen a few times before, but the purpose of the process evades me:

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Cut gouges in the road surface, install green bar and cover with concrete. As labor intensive as it is, it has to have a vital purpose, but damned if I could figure it out. Maybe anti-heaving device?? Dunno.

So stay tuned for our South Dakota adventures when our tale continues.
 
Its what they use to re-enforce "concrete paving", the green color is an epoxy coating to prevent rust (they don't usually require the epoxy bar in low altitude/dry climate areas, at least in Az, the only place I know a durned thing about how to build a road) The reasoning for cutting the grooves.... Ties it all together better???? :dunno:
 
It's because of a weather condition you don't experience quite so much in Arizona.

Martin
 
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