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this kind of crap gets people hurt

Kain

Kain

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put the trans transfer case in get everything buttoned up hit the key and bzzzzzt. is all i get tore open the harness and find this.

2 weeks ago the starter craps out i was busy running earends for my mom,since it broke down from the mechanics i had him put a starter in it. told him some of the wires need replaced. he said na they are good.

the next day i am on my way to the doctor and the starter engages driving down the road while driving.i had a funny feeling he didnt put the starter wires clear of the header. well when i get under it with the key off its still spinning.
reached up and pulled the wires of the header and it quit but wouldn't start.

tow it back to him and he says he fixed it, he lied.as you can see i have to rewire the starter.I AM NOT A HAPPY CAMPER!!!:mad1::mad1::mad1:

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I would not be going back to him if your a smart guy! Sounds like he is another Joe blow just wanna to make a fast $
 
How did changing the starter affect those wires on the drivers side that you are showing us?
 
One of the reasons i had to cange starters is the sylanoid fell off and freid the starter
If you jigle them just right no problems but don want a fire
So in the mornig im going to change out all the bad wirring
Then maybe i can finish putting fluid in the transmission
 
I "modify" the two wires with the fusible links on all my GM trucks whenever I had to drop the starter or if they fried--I lengthen the wires and instead of putting them back under the positive cable at the starter solenoid and in that stupid metal pipe,I run them right to the battery post instead--just like GM used too up until 1970 or so,and should have KEPT doing!..

I've had many fusible links and those wires go up in smoke on my trucks and seen many more that did too,because they roasted inside that metal pipe thats right next to the exhaust manifold..whoever made that design change needs a drop kick in the nuts!..
I also lengthen the purple "crank" wire to the solenoid so the starter can be laid on the ground when you remove it,so you dont have to juggle it or lay it on the frame while you take the small nut off to get the wire off the solenoid ..having just the purple wire and the positive cable on the starter makes it easier to install,IMO..and a hell of a lot easier to replace the fusible links if there ever is a "next time"..
 
10 gauge was what GM used I believe...thicker wouldn't hurt any though,especially if you plan on adding a lot of electrical acessories or a high amp altenator...(if you upgrade the altenator you should either use a 8 gauge wire to replace the original one in the harness that goes to the stud terminal on the altenator--or make a "jumper" from the altenator right to the battery positive terminal,that will take the load off the original harness wire..
 
I went ahead and got 8 gauge wire for it but its raining so when it stops
Ill fix it
 
I know I'll get flamed for suggesting this--but I've seen guys use a .22 bullet casing as a crimp on "wire nut" on thick gauge wiring like this before--they crimp it on,then solder it with a torch,and either tape it up good or use heat shrink tubing on the splice.....a rather crude but effective way to join two thick wires...
I have used 1/4" copper tubing and "crimped" it with a hammer and soldered the joint up myself...then taped over it good and thick or used heat shrink tubing..or both!..once you go thicker than 10 gauge you need crimping pliers that are more like bolt cutters to make a good "crush"...I find a hammer works well with a body dolly as a backer to crimp the big ones!..
 
Diesel that "crude" way of yours is a pretty solid idea for guys who don't have the luxury of a nice shop and toys,errr tools, to work with. And a helluva lot better than some I've seen.
 
While it may not be the cause of your original problem, I'd definitely recommend getting some split wire loom and zip ties and cleaning up the wiring under the hood. Not only does it make everything a lot nicer to look at, it really lessens the probability of stray wires floating around and coming into contact with things they shouldn't. That was one of the best hours ever spent on my truck.
 
When i hit the key it went bzzzzt,and dont work.
Hope it not the ignition,the fuse is good.
Running out of ideas
 
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