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Tire Help!!!

MAXMAN

MAXMAN

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Ok fellow off-roaders, I have narrowed down the choices for some new 40" radials. I am going to buy 5 wheels & tires, and have not decided weather I am going to run Hutchinsons or just a standard wheel as I very rarely have the need to air down to single digits. These are going on a 88 crew that's been shortened to 132" wheelbase, heavily modded front fenders and flatbed similar to Willards. This truck will be driven to all trails, so highway manners are definitely important. I'm torn between Nitto Trail Grapplers, and the Maxxis Trepador radials both in 40x13.50R17. I would like some real world feedback please, and if I'm totally missing the boat I'm willing to listen to other options! Thanks Fellas!
 
I have no info on the nitto's as I've never run them. I am running the trep radials, in 40's on trailready beadlocks. The tires have been good so far. On-road manners are good to go. Offroad its been a good tire. I'm missing some chunks but nothing too bad for what they've been through. I run them mainly in the rocks. After two seasons of driving to trails, and one trip to the desert of about 1500 miles total I've got about half of the life left in the tire.

I'm also running beads to balance, so I have no idea what weight they would have taken.
 
I haven't put any road miles on the Treps but I can't imagine they're as nice a road tire as the Nitto just because of tread configuration, much less any other factors. We've been pretty happy with the trails on road trips. Granted we're not driving cars here but they wear OK aren't super loud and have decent traction on snow and ice. One piece of trail tech that helps on the road is the Trails don't seem to chunk out easily so the balance is going to stay better for longer. I ran a set of DOT trails to pre-run KOH one time in my K5 and even on some serious sharp rock hill climbs at a spirited pace they held up well. A few chips but nothing major coming off.
 
Thanks for the info Fellas! Stephen, I thought about contacting you regarding this but didn't want to bother you---but since you are here! This rig will be wheeled 95% of the time in Washington state. Lots of gnarly old logging roads, some really rocky roads, but no real "rock crawling" to speak of most of the time. Definitely get our share of snow and snotty/clay type mud. Trying to make sure I buy what's best for me the first time. The Nitto's are definitely a little less expensive, but I was concerned a little thinking that they were just going to perform like any other generic mud type tire. I run 35" Cooper STT's on my FJ40 and they seem to be OK at everything, but not great at anything. Would be my favorite tire for a mostly on road rig! Also, maybe you could also shed a little light on weather you think beadlocks are a necessity for what I do. If so, I definitely want an approved wheel so Hutchinson's or B.A.D. would be what I would consider. On a tire like we are discussing, approximately how far down can you air them on a standard type rim? Thanks again
 
I will give you my opinion on beadlocks.

It's a great insurance policy. Not everyone needs em. I would dare say there are alot more that have them cause they think they need them, than actually need them.

I also like the B.A.D. ones better the Hutchinson only come in 4.5" backspacing for our bolt patterns ( I think I haven't actually called) I think the B.A.D are 3 5/8.

I really like Treps but I haven't ran em and from what I have heard about the Nittos I think I would run those
 
The problem with a recommended minimum air pressure is that it can vary with the wheel and tire dimensions and other properties even. Being able to hit single digit pressures is a big deal in some snow conditions and obviously a beadlock is the way for that. We did a LOT of muddy rock and trail on the UA trip last year (rain every day) and I was really happy with how the truck got around at 8-10 psi. Sounds like the beadlocks would be a good idea. Along with a nice compressor system and an air hose with a T and a couple clip on chucks.
 
I appreciate your opinions and recommendations! Definitely planned on a good on board air source either way. It sound Like both you and Blazinzuk would recommend the Nittos. Thanks again!
 
I have been running the toyo version of that nitto and they have been great. No balance weights and very little shaking. I was set on thinking I needed bead locks, but I only lost 1 bead all winter, and it was basically all weight pushing on that tire(and 2.5psi). Tires needed to be down to 5 psi or less to REALLY work in the snow, and alot of the time had them down to 2.5-3 psi. Running 06 h2 wheels.

Ran 50 miles yesterday at 8 psi. (fairly hard spring snow).
 
Beadlocks are nice until they start to leak....then there a major pain in the ass.
I had these and I got 3 out of 4 to not leak but the 4th about every 2 weeks would have to be aired back up....
 
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