You're right, I have never pulled a gooseneck trailer, but the last I checked there is a 33' 5th wheel in my backyard.
You guys are pathetic to say that I'm a "know it all" because I understand the factory ratings for a vehicle. It doesn't take long to read a trailering guide and realize a rig is overloaded at that kind of weight.
Two trucks @ 6,000 lbs + a 7,000 lb trailer = 19,000 + 7,000 lb truck to pull them = 26,000 lbs.
That kind of weight is really borderline even for an F-550 or similar truck, and you'd have to actually measure the weight the pin weight because you might manage to bust the GVWR with that much pin weight.
The only reason I've researched this subject is that two weeks ago before I bought my own trailer, this is something that I was considering doing myself. I sat here and crunched the numbers, and it is just not practical or safe.
I assure you that the above F250 is exceeding its GVWR, rear GAWR, and the rating of those two tires in the back of the truck. I'd bet by a signficant amount, too (I would venture to say that rig is up to 1,000 lbs over the GVWR and even more than that over the axle rating and tires).
Seriously people, you've got to have more sense than this. DOT will let you plate your rig for whatever you want. I can plate my 1 ton for 14,000 if I want. I can plate my trailer for another 14,000. That means I can make my single wheel truck and trailder combo, according to you guys, "Legally" gross nearly twice its factory spec'ed GCWR. That would be insane, unsafe, and impractial......and most likely illegal.
I highly doubt any insurance policy will cover you if you're overloaded by that kind of margin, either.
DOT doesn't give a rat's ass what your truck can pull or what it is rated for. All they're going to do is check your hitching equipment, check the truck for brakes, lights, etc., and send you down the road.
Checking the manufacturer's rating is YOUR responsibility and it is very irresponsible for someone to overload a truck like that and head off down the public roadway.
/forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif We're all adults here. I've pulled more than my share of trailers. I've pulled some pretty damn scary ones, too. Just because I lived to tell about it doesn't make those experiences safe.
Grow up and get past the tone that you don't seem to like about my posts, the intentions of it are good. Seriously reconsider what you're doing before you hitch a trailer with a 20,000 lb GVWR to a truck with an 8,800-10,000 lb GVWR and expect to go down the road.
There is absolutely nothing safe about overloading anything to that margin. I'm sure some of you don't even realize just how unsafe that is.
New pickups have so much power/torque they will pull anything and bring anything up to speed. That's why it's damn near impossible for me to sit here and tell you that Ford with a school bus/garbage truck engine and 1 ton gear isn't enough for pulling a specific weight, but seriously guys, check your ratings and weight your vehicles before you make decisions like this.
I'm trying to say this in the nicest way possible. As a private citizen I don't want to have to go through weigh stations or inspections or any stupid crap like that. But if people continue to overload pickup trucks in this manner I think one day I probably will be required to submit to such inspections.
Please, dear God, make activity like this stop!!!!!1 /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif
If overloading by a 40% margin was safe or legal, you think I would have paid $3000 for a 14,000 lb trailer when there are pleny of brand new 7,000 lb trailers on the market for $1500?
