Treadwear of Super Swamper TSLs?

[SLO C5]

I have 39.5x15.5x16.5 TSLs on my Sub. They are bias 12 ply.

How many miles can I expect to get out of them?

Mostly street driving, with the occasional off-roading and snow.

A good deal of the street miles will be at highway speeds on long trips to Tahoe and work when the weather is bad(75 miles round trip).

I was told to run them at 20-22 # for street use to optimize wear and ride comfort, and my Sub with 10" Superlift springs is extremely rough. The previous owner put about 5K miles on them at 30 #, and it looks like they are wearing more in the centers.

What wears them faster, mile per mile? Off-road use(mud, dirt, snow, no rockcrawling) or driving at highway speeds?

On a sidenote, it took freakin' forever to drop them from 30# to 20# I'm new to 4x4s, but very experienced with cars. I'm not used to the sheer volume of air in these monster tires

 

[habitatxskate]

you spray your tires with a hose (front and rear) drive a couple feet and see the pattern, if it is complete then check the air pressure front and rear (they can be different) that is the way i was taught.

 

[Hogback Fabrication]

I would expect ~10,000 miles out of a set of TSL's

habitatxskate described a good method of finding the right pressure

4 wheeling is much tougher on tires mile for mile, but it would take forever to even put 1000 off road miles on a set of tires

 

[SLO C5]

I'll try the hose technique, good idea.

10K? That's pretty poor.

What would be a good set of off-road tires, available in this size, that will give me better treadwear, not kill my wallet, without giving up too much off road capability?

 

[redneckdude]

I'll try the hose technique, good idea.

10K? That's pretty poor.

What would be a good set of off-road tires, available in this size, that will give me better treadwear, not kill my wallet, without giving up too much off road capability?

you are looking for a tire that doesn't exist...

good luck getting more than 15K out of big tsls...you are probably better off going to a 37" radial mud terrain like a BFG...still pricey, but will outlast tls almost 5x. I found a cheap set of goodyear wrangler MTs in a 37x12.50 and so far so good...save the TSLs for offroad use.

 

[habitatxskate]

anything radial pretty much.. (irok radial ply) i have the bias ply and use them on the road, but i don't have my license so i can't explain tread wear, just yet.

 

[rwright07]

SLOK5, its rick from San Luis, my 37"Super Swamper Radials (SSR's) have done well, ive put well over 12k on them in the last year and a half, and 4 of them still have about 50% tread left, and had about 80%ish when i bought them. the one is not wearing evenly, the PO didnt rotate them well, so im driving that one into the ground. i am running 35psi up front and 30 rear, to make up for the weight difference.

 

[SLO C5]

Whatsup Rick!

Anxious for the new year to arrive so you can teach me how to wheel! I've been told of some cool places around here other than Pismo. It's been raining down here pretty good so there should be some mud for us to find. My Sub will not be a mall crawler.

Looks like I'll need new tire sooner than I thought. Oh well, I guess I'll start my HW early.

 

[rwright07]

i may be trading my 37's for a set of 38's that are 15" wide, the guy doesnt want to trim his fenders so he wants to swap for smaller meats,

these are radials too and may wear faster, but i'll deal with it, the lower highway rpm's ought to help my milage, but my d44 wont like it much

 

[obijuan]

you can get a 40 inch goodyear MTR and that will outlast the swamper by alot.

 

[redneckdude]

you can get a 40 inch goodyear MTR and that will outlast the swamper by alot.

aren't those tires still WELL over 400$?

 

[SLO C5]

aren't those tires still WELL over 400$?

Looks like it, bottom of page:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Goodyear&model=Wrangler+MT/R

Although my TSLs look to be about $350 each, and if they only last 1/3-1/2 as long then it's worth the extra $200-300 for the MTRs. That is, if I'm willing to give up some offroad capability.

 

[obijuan]

theyre decent tires on the rocks, plenty for what i do. mostly street driving and offroad a couple weekends a month.

 

[Hogback Fabrication]

you can get a 40 inch goodyear MTR and that will outlast the swamper by alot.

I had ~10,000 miles on my MT/R's (not counting all the 4 wheeling miles, and there were plenty of those) and they still had at least 80% tread left.

I wouldn't say they perform as good as my current IROK's but I really liked my MT/R's and they're a great street/trail tire

 

[drop the hammer]

Am I the only person that had TSL's that wore like Iron. I had them on my old F-250, they were 36x12x16.5 Bias plys, got them a swap meet with about 60% tread left and got a hell of a lot of life out of them dont remember the exact milage but they LASTED. Is it cause Bias ply had a harder compund? cause I honestly dont know

The road manners did suck though, louder than my glasspacks were!

 

[blazinzuk]

nope I had a set of 38x15.50s (radial) that lasted about 25000 miles. They were grooved and got rotated alot. First 20 were under a 95 dodge and then the last 5 were under my blazer. Sold them with at least 30% tread on them

BTW if you do alot of highway driving with them sipe them. Highway driving is the hardest on swampers

 

[blazin_blazer]

will siping give longer life or just better street manners? will siping hurt or help off road ability?(mud/fire roads,no rocks)

 

[blazinzuk]

siping tends to help off road, won't really change the way they drive on the street except in rain and snow conditions. they tend to chunk a bit if you drive them hard on the rocks but its worth the exta life to me.