OL BLAZER
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Just looked at my ride again and I wish I could post a pic (pay up sucker).It looks like someone tried to weld some kinda spot weld on the sides where the straps bolt on the caps of the ujoints.
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u joints gone bad ?
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sandawgk5
3/4 ton status
Which one of the pics does your tcase look like?
Ira
Ira
OL BLAZER
Registered Member
sandawgk5 said:Here is what a 203 looks like
And here is what a 205 looks like.
The billet covers and oil tube are aftermarket.
Which one does yours look like.
Ira
I got the 203 is that good or bad.
Back to the ujoints ,since there is different sizes ,would'nt it be obvious if they didnt fit or are they that close in size where I couldve put the wrong ones in?
Takem apart. $20 says you have a needle bearing in the bottom of one of the caps.
My post from the thread sandawg linked-
From left to right- 1310, 1330, 1350, 1410, 1480-
From left to right- 1310/1330, 1350/1410, 1480-
1480-
1480 is also the same size as a D60 axle joint.
From left to right- 1310, 1330, 1350, 1410, 1480-
From left to right- 1310/1330, 1350/1410, 1480-
1480-
1480 is also the same size as a D60 axle joint.
sandawgk5
3/4 ton status
He said he got the caps on and there was slack in the joint. He also said that with the straps tight the cap is not held in position. In that link there are 2 joints that have the same cross size but one has a smaller cap than the other by a small amount. Are the caps tight in the shaft yoke?KidJethro said:
Ira
This is from bigdaddyof2, same post as above-
U-joint specs and part numbers
U-joint Series\Width (in)\Cap Dia (in)\Max Angle\Cont Rating (lb-ft)\ Short Duration Rating
1310............... 3.219....... 1.062........... 30............... 130....................... 800
1330............... 3.625....... 1.062........... 20............... 150....................... 890
1350............... 3.625....... 1.188........... 20............... 210....................... 1240
1410............... 4.188....... 1.188........... 37............... 250.........................?
1480............... 4.188....... 1.375........... ?................. ?............................?
S44(3RL)......... 3.655....... 1.125........... ?................. ?.............................?
U-joint measurements (closest with tape measure)
Outside of bearing cap to outside of bearing cap X bearing cap diameter
1310.......... 3 7/32" x 1 1/16"
1330.......... 3 5/8" x 1 1/16"
1350.......... 3 5/8" x 1 3/16"
1410.......... 4 3/16" x 1 3/16"
1480.......... 4 3/16" x 1 3/8"
S44(3RL)..... 3 21/32" x 1 1/8"
Spicer Life Series Universal Joint Cross-Over Index
Series ========= Kit Part #
1310 ========== SPL22-1X
1310/Ford 1-1/8" = SPL22-3X
1310/7260 ====== SPL22-4X
1330 ========== SPL25-1X
1330/Ford 1-1/8" = SPL25-3X
1330/S44 ======= SPL25-4X
S44/S44 ======== SPL25-6X
1330/7290 ====== SPL25-7X
7290/7290 ====== SPL25-9X
1350 =========== SPL30-1X
1410 =========== SPL36-1X
The Saginaw 44 (S44) joint is also known as the GM 3RL.
This u-joint uses 'inside' locks.
The 447 is a 1350/S44 adaptor joint, NOT a 1350/1330.
73-87 trucks never came with a 1330, it's an S44.
1330/1350 joint is Neapco PN 2-3050.
1310/1350 joint is Neapco PN 3-3140.
S44/1350 joint is Neapco PN 2-1153.
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U-joint specs and part numbers
U-joint Series\Width (in)\Cap Dia (in)\Max Angle\Cont Rating (lb-ft)\ Short Duration Rating
1310............... 3.219....... 1.062........... 30............... 130....................... 800
1330............... 3.625....... 1.062........... 20............... 150....................... 890
1350............... 3.625....... 1.188........... 20............... 210....................... 1240
1410............... 4.188....... 1.188........... 37............... 250.........................?
1480............... 4.188....... 1.375........... ?................. ?............................?
S44(3RL)......... 3.655....... 1.125........... ?................. ?.............................?
U-joint measurements (closest with tape measure)
Outside of bearing cap to outside of bearing cap X bearing cap diameter
1310.......... 3 7/32" x 1 1/16"
1330.......... 3 5/8" x 1 1/16"
1350.......... 3 5/8" x 1 3/16"
1410.......... 4 3/16" x 1 3/16"
1480.......... 4 3/16" x 1 3/8"
S44(3RL)..... 3 21/32" x 1 1/8"
Spicer Life Series Universal Joint Cross-Over Index
Series ========= Kit Part #
1310 ========== SPL22-1X
1310/Ford 1-1/8" = SPL22-3X
1310/7260 ====== SPL22-4X
1330 ========== SPL25-1X
1330/Ford 1-1/8" = SPL25-3X
1330/S44 ======= SPL25-4X
S44/S44 ======== SPL25-6X
1330/7290 ====== SPL25-7X
7290/7290 ====== SPL25-9X
1350 =========== SPL30-1X
1410 =========== SPL36-1X
The Saginaw 44 (S44) joint is also known as the GM 3RL.
This u-joint uses 'inside' locks.
The 447 is a 1350/S44 adaptor joint, NOT a 1350/1330.
73-87 trucks never came with a 1330, it's an S44.
1330/1350 joint is Neapco PN 2-3050.
1310/1350 joint is Neapco PN 3-3140.
S44/1350 joint is Neapco PN 2-1153.
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sandawgk5
3/4 ton status
KidJethro said:My post from the thread sandawg linked-
From left to right- 1310, 1330, 1350, 1410, 1480-
From left to right- 1310/1330, 1350/1410, 1480-
1480-
1480 is also the same size as a D60 axle joint.
The S44 joint is in between the 1310 and 1350 cap size but I believe it is the same width as a 1310 joint. The specs are posted later in Kidjethro's thread.
Ira
OL BLAZER
Registered Member
Yeah I'm going take em down in a little while just wanted a little 101 before I did it again .
I 'll let you guys know what happens . Thanxs for everyones two cents , I'll be rich by the time this thread is done!
I 'll let you guys know what happens . Thanxs for everyones two cents , I'll be rich by the time this thread is done!
sandawgk5 said:
If he had to use a hammer, I'd say thier tight.
sandawgk5
3/4 ton status
KidJethro said:
I would suggest calling Jess and High Angle Driveline. He should be able to give you the part number for the joints you should need. He is a lot more reliable that a highschool parts counter kid.
Ira
OL BLAZER
Registered Member
So I checked out the chart and it looks like there only one size for my half ton ,am i right or not .If thats the case I couldnt have got the wrong size right or wrong?
sandawgk5
3/4 ton status
No I have heard of some half ton set ups with 1350 joints in the driveline.
Not sure of which ones though. S44s are also 1/2 ton joints which are a different size all together.
Do you have the old joints? You can take measurements of the caps and crosses and then compare to the chart to see what you have.
Ira
Not sure of which ones though. S44s are also 1/2 ton joints which are a different size all together.
Do you have the old joints? You can take measurements of the caps and crosses and then compare to the chart to see what you have.
Ira
OL BLAZER
Registered Member
I messed up and threw the old ones away .rookie move
