I never noticed a difference when we put them on the mustangs(there are like 20 different places that make the underdrive setup for those guys) Most of the time the cars come back because they are running hot, and there battery doesnt stay charged. They slow down you fan and alt. Go electric fan to make up the power. Use a ford t-bird fan from like a 90 super coupe. I use one on my Firebird and it doesnt overheat here in Phx, AZ and it freed up 20 real wheel hp /forums/images/icons/smile.gif