unimog axles...

[oneofthefewbmx]

hey guys, a buddy of mine has come across 3 pairs of unimog axles at a (possibly) decent price. but niether of us are sure what the demand is, or how much they go for...i havnt heard of ALOT of ppl using them, possibly becuase there are more readily availble axles out there. but from what i understand, they are about as strong as dana 60s but with the advantage of ground clearance due to the portal hubs...are there any othere pros and cons to the unimog axles? any help would be appreciated...also, what do they usually sell for? i tried to look on ebay for an idea, but i only found ine set for like a grand...what do yall think??

 

[TheAustrian]

Unimog axles are usually quite expensive, even here in Austria. However, they are very rugged and withstand almost all abuse. And they are portal axles (how is it spelled correctly in english?) which gives you more ground clearance and the outher gear (portal) are likely undestroyable. The question is, if they fit under the Blazer frame. I don't know their gauge and surely a lot of modifications on the drive train and the linkage to the leaf springs must be done to make them fit.

 

[boz42]

some have to have a u-joint yoke conversion done. funky wheel bolt pattern, some are not strong enough so u need to know the model.

almost have to run a 4 link to control axle wrap.

 

[ryoken]

Mogs are the sh*t imo... If I had a project truck going, thats what I'd run... A link setup is the way to go... Can be pricey with rotor/lug correction, etc I suppose...

Someone here is in the process of doing them, can't remember who... and here's a badarse one thats been for sale for quite some time..

http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180932

 

[boz42]

i agree they are badarse, but very pricey to buy & even more so to run

 

[ryoken]

Yeah, the parts mods/fab work would be extensive..

The uniqueness of it makes it very cool imo... I'd much rather run them than Rocks...

 

[Confedneck79K30]

driveline brake is cheap.. 4 link not too hard and the crawl is insane

 

[ryoken]

driveline brake is cheap..

And not safe for any street use imo... I'd go the rotor route..

Believe me I'm a proponent of this swap over Rocks anyday...

 

[Confedneck79K30]

there's a couple VERY streetable trucks here with driveline brakes... helluvalot more stopping power...

 

[ryoken]

It isn't with rocks from my understanding...

 

[boz42]

It isn't with rocks from my understanding...

that's interesting i always heard that a pinion brake's stopping power was magnified by the ring & pinion reduction.

i don't know cause i have never had one, i would be curious to hear from someone that does

 

[ryoken]

I just did a quickie search and didn't come up with the thread... But I remember this coming up awhile back and it was said pinion brakes aren't safe on the street...

 

[draggbody]

mogs are junk!!! my good friend RAN them on a 4k lb buggy and of about 10 times wheelin', he broke them 3 times... and we are not talkin get on the board and find a used shaft laying around, we are talkin buy parts from germany and pay out the ASS!!! cool factor is there, but w/ the cash involved to get them under a rig, you could buy some dynatrac 60's....

 

[MTBLAZER89]

As mentioned above it depends on what models you get. Willyswanter is planning on putting the 416's I believe uner his rig. I saw some side by side comparo photos with D44 and D60 stuff. It was like comparing 14B to a Zuk axle They are very strong axles, but also as mentioned above $$$

 

[ryoken]

mogs are junk!!! my good friend RAN them on a 4k lb buggy and of about 10 times wheelin', he broke them 3 times... and we are not talkin get on the board and find a used shaft laying around, we are talkin buy parts from germany and pay out the ASS!!! cool factor is there, but w/ the cash involved to get them under a rig, you could buy some dynatrac 60's....

Well, you'd be THE first I've ever heard say that... Musta had one of the lighter duty models...

 

[NEK5]

Mogs are definitely the way to go. I met a buddy who is friends with the guy i bought my truck from, who has a set of mogs he wants to put under his blazer. His truck sounded pretty sweet..I believe he said it had 1tons, 5.13s locked, 63s out back, 8 inch SJ springs in front with shackle lift?, 44 boggers.....He`d have it done already, except he`s been putting all his money into his 55 Chevy....

 

[ryoken]

that's interesting i always heard that a pinion brake's stopping power was magnified by the ring & pinion reduction.

i don't know cause i have never had one, i would be curious to hear from someone that does

Just did a little looking around this morn and found some info...

The reason a pinion brake is unsafe is due to the fact that the rotor is spinning at, in the case of Rocks, 6:72 x faster than what they would be spinning at the wheels, thus creating WAY more heat than standard wheel rotors...

Not to mention, afaik, pinion brakes are illegal in many areas....

 

[Hogback Fabrication]

mogs are junk!!! my good friend RAN them on a 4k lb buggy and of about 10 times wheelin', he broke them 3 times... and we are not talkin get on the board and find a used shaft laying around, we are talkin buy parts from germany and pay out the ASS!!! cool factor is there, but w/ the cash involved to get them under a rig, you could buy some dynatrac 60's....

Are you sure he wasn't running Volvo portals? They are significantly weaker.

'Mogs (even 404's) are pretty damn stout

 

[draggbody]

Are you sure he wasn't running Volvo portals? They are significantly weaker.

'Mogs (even 404's) are pretty damn stout

404's...yes 100% positive... he has busted 2 portal boxes and 1 cv in the axle... just a mild V8, but i guess wheeelin "hard" is a relative term... we frequent morris mountain alot and you have to beat on sh!t there... but i guess in drier areas, moab, there is great traction and alot less full throttle assaults... but you couldn't give me a set of those things... BTW he only ran a 40" irok...

 

[sandawgk5]

404's...yes 100% positive... he has busted 2 portal boxes and 1 cv in the axle... just a mild V8, but i guess wheeelin "hard" is a relative term... we frequent morris mountain alot and you have to beat on sh!t there... but i guess in drier areas, moab, there is great traction and alot less full throttle assaults... but you couldn't give me a set of those things... BTW he only ran a 40" irok...

404s are the weakest of the mogs and also the cheapest. 416s are the **** that is why willyswanter is going to them because the 47 LTBs he is running is killing his Cromo 60 shafts.

Ira