Upgrading the front driveshaft with a 205/60 any cheap options

[NorCalKid]

After blowing the front shaft two many times to count I am thinking its time to upgrade. I am running a 465/205 and a 60 front with 1310 non cv right now. I am thinking 1350's and maybe a cv on a square shaft. The truck doesnt see much road time and cheap is a plus. so on to the mass amounts of questions

I know I will have to get rid of my 10 spline output shaft, a ford 32 spline will bolt right in right? how much of a pain is it? Any junkyard 1350 32 spline yokes?

Then for the axle side a yoke from a rear 60 or 70 will work right?

Then to go with a cv or not? Any junkyard 1350 cv's?

Thanks, I got tired of searching through 205 sye threads and cv doesnt search well...

 

[bp71k5]

I know I will have to get rid of my 10 spline output shaft, a ford 32 spline will bolt right in right? how much of a pain is it?

The 10spline shaft is pretty strong as-is, but you do have more yoke options with a 32spline. You can get new 32spline shafts from ORD I think? I got mine from a place in Oakland CA pretty cheap. You might be able to swap it with the x-case still installed, but don't hold me to that.

Then to go with a cv or not? Any junkyard 1350 cv's?

I'm running a 1310 front CV shaft now, but I've heard that you should run 1350's for 35" or larger tires. If you upgrade the front output you probably could have a junkyard rear shaft shortened and use whatever flange it needs.

 

[twoslo4five0]

why run a cv??if your gonna run a square just run something like this...

http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230065&highlight=square+1410+driveshaft

beware of 32 ford yokes...i thought they were 1350 but sold one a while back and its either 1330 or a metric u joint...it looks like a 1350 yoke and the cross is right but in the yoke where the caps sit is a lil to small...i got a few of theese laying around if you need pics

 

[mo]

This has been floatin around for awhile, pretty good idea:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=549625&highlight=buck+shaft

 

[cegusman]

What are you running for suspension?

 

[NorCalKid]

The 10spline shaft is pretty strong as-is, but you do have more yoke options with a 32spline. You can get new 32spline shafts from ORD I think? I got mine from a place in Oakland CA pretty cheap. You might be able to swap it with the x-case still installed, but don't hold me to that. If you upgrade the front output you probably could have a junkyard rear shaft shortened and use whatever flange it needs.

I am pretty sure the 10 spline only came with 1310 yokes. I also heard you can swap the front shaft with the case still in which would be nice.

why run a cv??if your gonna run a square just run something like this..

I am thinking I want to stay with 1350's for now and am not sure I can get enough angle out of a non-cv due to the short drivetrain (465/205). but I might be able to if I run axle shafts instead of traditional yokes. What are the yokes on that shaft you linked?

This has been floatin around for awhile, pretty good idea:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...ght=buck+shaft

I was debating doing that, I know a junkyard where I can find a couple ttb50's to rob shafts from too

What are you running for suspension?

just some cheap 4" springs, should have 56's up front by the end of next summer though, which is why I am thinking of the square shaft

 

[Hogback Fabrication]

I know I will have to get rid of my 10 spline output shaft, a ford 32 spline will bolt right in right? how much of a pain is it? Any junkyard 1350 32 spline yokes?

The Ford 32 spline front output will directly replace your current output and it can be done with the t-case installed. Its not terribly difficult.

As for finding a 1350 32 spline yoke, AFAIK there aren't any stock front ones but the 32 spline yokes are the same front to back. That means you can find a 1350 yoke from the rear driveline of a 203 or 205 (probably from a 1 ton truck) and it will work on either your front or rear 32 spline output.

Then to go with a cv or not? Any junkyard 1350 cv's?

Really, the only reason to run a CV driveshaft is to reduce vibrations.

 

[twoslo4five0]

Really, the only reason to run a CV driveshaft is to reduce vibrations.

x2 thats why people put them on the rear

 

[bp71k5]

I guess it's the same as reducing vibrations, but doesn't the CV help reduce the operating angle in cases where the shaft is really short and the angle is very big?

You do have to rotate the pinion appropriately to get rid of vibrations, but for a front shaft it's not as likely to see high-speed.

 

[6.2Blazer]

If I am thinking correctly, most stock style CVs (correct term is actually double-cardan) do not have a greater max operating angle then a regular single u-joint. It's just that in applications where you have to have more angle they can be made to run smoother and have less wear on the u-joints

 

[Hogback Fabrication]

I guess it's the same as reducing vibrations, but doesn't the CV help reduce the operating angle in cases where the shaft is really short and the angle is very big?

You do have to rotate the pinion appropriately to get rid of vibrations, but for a front shaft it's not as likely to see high-speed.

There are some purpose built cv driveshafts that can handle high angles but in general a single joint on each end will have more angular capacity.

 

[NorCalKid]

The Ford 32 spline front output will directly replace your current output and it can be done with the t-case installed. Its not terribly difficult.

As for finding a 1350 32 spline yoke, AFAIK there aren't any stock front ones but the 32 spline yokes are the same front to back. That means you can find a 1350 yoke from the rear driveline of a 203 or 205 (probably from a 1 ton truck) and it will work on either your front or rear 32 spline output.



Really, the only reason to run a CV driveshaft is to reduce vibrations.

Sweet thanks for the help. It sounds like I will be looking for an f350 to rob a yoke and output shaft from and a f250 to rob some ttb50 1350 axle shafts

 

[NorCalKid]

Alright I got a 32 spline ford shaft from 1tonmudder and got the old shaft pulled out but I can't get the new one in. I can't seem to get the shift collar into the shift fork with the shaft half installed. Any secrets or helpful tips? What range should the transfer case be in? Thanks