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value of 4 speed/np205 with extra weather

KansasTwister

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Buddy has this at his place, he said he wants whatever its worth minus some. Whats your guys opinions? Said its from a 79 k5, looks like a fixed yoke rear. Looks to have been outside for a little. Thoughts on a fair offer?

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The 205 tag apoears to say '76, plus the front output yoke instead of a flange guarantees it's older than '79.

Anyway... Around here that combo would go for $250-ish.

Since it's been outside and probably uncovered I'd check each for water inside.

Edit: it is a fixed rear yoke but the aluminum seal retainer is missing (see similar on the front output).
 
Also I don't see the 205 shifter or associated linkage.
 
Yeah, messy but worthwhile in this case. Should be able to get a good visual...

$250 I think is fair if no water got in em...I see manual pedals and hanger there too, although with the missing 205 shifter it's sixes I guess.
 
Around here most salvage yards want 350 bucks for "any gearbox"--if they had one in that condition (most are,or worse!--if you can find one period),they might cut you a deal and let you snag it for 200 or 250 "as-is"...that is the 10 spline version I think ,it looks like the tag says 78?..

Too bad the shifter handle isn't there--at least the bolt for it isn't snapped off in the adapter though,thats a plus...I have a '72 NP-205 that was in my 77 GMC with a TH-350 that had the bolt shear off in it,I had to drill it out and tap it for 1/2"x13 threads and use a larger bolt to "fix" it,along with a needle bearing for a bushing..the t-case has been tripping me in my garage for a good 10 years now..probably never use it!..:doah:
 
not a stock front output yoke style for that vintage .

10 spline 465/205 style .

good for parts in my book since missing stuff and don't know condition .

that rear bearing looks rusty and shot on the 205 so at a min going to need parts .

input shaft and throw out bearing sleave area look real chunky / rusty also .

my self I wouldn't give much if 50 over scrap value and maybe you win and or brake even .
 
I was thinking about going and opening the covers when i have time, and offering like 100 or 150. Figure a combo thats been sitting out for a while in unknown. I see cleaner combos going for around 250 here.
 
Pay him if and when it works :dunno: It looks like it could easily be scrap. That input shaft is a but rusty.

You can fill an sm465 up with water and it still works great, but I don't know about sitting like that for a few years.
 
that setup running in great condition around here was about $250.. in that shape... $100-$150....

offer him $100... tear it apart and clean it up... sand, paint... make sure all is good...
 
I bought one for parts For a hundred bucks In that condition. Guy Left it sit in his back yard for A few years under a tarp. All The internal gears were rusted but I cleaned them up and am Using the transfer case now under Mine. Just replaced the seals and bearings. I resold the trans for 100 bucks for parts to another guy so made my money back.
 
If you want to pay money for an sm465 and t-case. Find one for cheap that doesn't need to be obviously taken apart and rebuilt.
 
Be aware if you're looking for a complete setup and this one missing the shifter means it should be a little cheaper than $250 being that shifters sell on eBay for average $75-$100.

Yep, that's just the shifter alone. For the 205 case, too.

$250 would be the good average to pay for the complete setup that's not missing the shifter.
 
Just because it looks like junk,doesn't mean it is...


We sold quite a few manual trannies & T-cases out of aincient cars and trucks at the junkyard,that sat a long time,some out to the weather just like this setup pictured--most of them ,if they were not seized up tight,ended up "living" --if they turned by hand,chances were good they were saveable..after they were drained completely and flushed out with some diesel fuel,we used the parts washer after taking the side cover off..

Most of the ones we sold,before selling them,we rigged up a v-pulley to the input shaft and filled the tranny with diesel fuel,and some 15W-40 diesel oil (high detergent) and used an electric motor to spin the shaft (we used an old table saw we got in the the scrap pile!)--after letting it spin a few minutes in neutral,we'd shift it into all the gears and let it spin awhile...then dumped it out and blew the gunk out with the air gun--and told the customer to use fresh gear oil in them--some added some Lucas or STP gear treatment to the lube too,claimed it made them shift easier and run quieter..

Only a few of them ended up being noisy,or not shifting well (like the synchros were junk--might have been to begin with?)...we were often amazed at how well a lot of gearboxes and diffs survived after sitting a long time out to the weather,yet still ended up being perfectly useable as-is...a few didn't pan out though,some had the cases crack after water that collected in them from condensation or rain,froze solid and ruined them...we used some for parts to make one out of two or three for a few of the antique cars we restored though...
 
Neither would I,thats why I dont have a SM465 in my trucks--salvage yards here want too much for things like these that sat outside in pools of water forever,and dont want to give you any refund or replacement if it turns out to be NFG--plus I'm a cheap SOB anyway..:rolleyes:.

..but like I said,many do seem to "live" despite having been left out to rot,not every one panned out though...most of the customers we sold such trannys and t-cases too only bought them because they simply cant find another one anywhere around here ,and were willing to gamble..we didn't ask top dollar for them either--50 bucks was the usual price we'd get-with "no returns or refunds"...sold as cores or parts only..
 
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